S&L Podcast - #418 - Don’t Fart On My Art

Alastair Reynolds has a book, Tom needs a bookcrate sub stat, and our wrap-up of The Ruthless Lady's Guide to Wizardry.

WHAT ARE WE DRINKING?

Tom: St. Francis Syrah
Veronica: Rosé

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QUICK BURNS

John: Alastair Reynolds has recently released a new book in the Revelation Space universe - Inhibitor Phase

Ruth: Don’t know if anyone is into book crate subscriptions but I thought y’all might like to know that Illmunicrate is doing an exclusive hardback set of the Green Bone Saga by Fonda Lee when Jade Legacy comes out later this year.

Mark: George R.R. Martin Just Made a Sci-Fi Film With Vincent D’Onofrio

The short film, currently in post-production, is based on Night Of The Cooters, a short story by Howard Waldrop. … the short story is available online from Clarkesworld.

BARE YOUR SWORD

Drake Tungsten-2 @blueseaturtle12

@swordandlaser @acedtect @Veronica Thanks again for talking about Mary Robinette Kowal's "Lady Astronaut" series in some of your 2019 episodes. I stayed up all night reading "The Fated Sky" and had finished "The Calculating Stars" recently. On to ""Relentless Moon"". :)"

April Mendis @aprilmendis

This popped up after I heard this week’s @swordandlaser and now I can’t stop saying “chunk in your funk” and “Roy on your joy”. So thanks for that, @acedtect and @Veronica"

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

Terra Nullius by Claire G. Coleman

WRAP UP

The Ruthless Lady's Guide to Wizardry by C.M. Waggoner.

Why can't she be bad?

ADDENDUMS

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S&L Podcast - #417 - Bong!

We've got Dragon Award finalists, a Kickstarter roundup for small publishers, and Tom buys new bookends. Plus, our non-spoiler thoughts on The Ruthless Lady's Guide to Wizardry.

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Tom has a new book out: Project VERA by Tom Merritt

QUICK BURNS

John (Taloni) Gail Carriger's latest book, "Ambush or Adore"" is now ready for pre-order with an expected release date of October 1.

Mark: Here Are the 2021 Dragon Award Finalists

Mark: Nuns in Space are back Feb 2022!

Silvana: Amazon’s Lord of the Rings Series Will Debut in September 2022

Chris: Wheel of Time’s Producer Wants to Adapt Mercedes Lackey’s Valdemar Universe Next

Kickstarter roundup!

Ruth: Apex Magazine, for which yours truly is a slush reader, is running a Kickstarter for next year

Jan: Uncanny Magazine has launched their new Kickstarter campaign to support ""Uncanny Magazine Year 8: Fly to the Future, Space Unicorns!"

Jan: Tor.com has announced new additions to Tamsyn Muir’s The Locked Tomb trilogy series (Gideon the Ninth and Harrow the Ninth):

Mark: Dune bookends show off Denis Villeneuve’s take on the sandworm


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Beth Mitcham aka @mitchambeth is back with another Twitter review!

CONSIDER PHLEBAS, Iain M. Banks. Anti-hero questions -- is it better to murder and betray people to save your own life or because you are serving an ideal? Does your answer change if you succeed? If you fail? PS. Not for lunchtime reading. @swordandlaser

Drake Tungsten's archive listen continues

Episode 325 takes a hard left turn at 21:15: - Veronica: Tentacle sex. I'm kinda into that. - Tom: Is that the whiskey talking? - Veronica: No. You haven't read 'Cthulhurotica'? [A discussion follows on the definition of hentai and traveling to Japan.]

Tamahome: Veronica has a Kaki King kind of handsomeness:

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"pmgordon said in Discord ""I'm thinking of getting a Kobo. I've heard pretty good reviews.""

and amendis replied:

I ordered one after hearing an interview with the head of Kobo on he Reading Glasses podcast. He's really passionate about what he does and it reminded me to be more thoughtful about where I get stuff.

Currently in the middle of Chapter 8 of the audiobook - love the language (and the narrator is excellent.) I agree with @Brent - I'm having a great time with it and will probably incorporate some of the vocab (daintitudinous) into my everyday lexicon."

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BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

The Ruthless Lady's Guide to Wizardry by C.M. Waggoner.

PumpkinStew with some first impressions

Medieval/Renaissance Fantasy vs Victorian Fantasy

Class Structure and Romance

ADDENDUMS

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S&L Podcast - #416 - Does The Droid Die Dot Com

Poet Andrew Heaton joins us to wrap up our thoughts on Consider Phlebas by Iain M. Banks. Plus, the greatest zombie film in the world and totally metal T-shirts to show your support of Octavia Butler and other awesome authors.

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WHAT ARE WE DRINKING?

Tom: Water (or is it?)

Veronica: Booch Craft hard Kombucha

Heaton: Arizona Sweet Tea (or is it?)

QUICK BURNS

Neil Gaiman’s ‘Anansi Boys’ Ordered to Series at Amazon.

Jan: The 2021 World Fantasy Award Finalists have been announced!

Jan: "Piranesi" has won the Red Tentacle for best Novel in this year's Kitschie Awards

Jan: New Dune Trailer

Joanna: The European Science Fiction Society Awards had been announced.

Mark: For those of you who don't have enough t-shirts, author T's branded like metal band T's.

Jan: In addition to the Amazon Prime Video series, there is also a Wheel of Time film trilogy announced.

Joanna: A24 had acquired right to the adaptation of Octavia Butler’s Parable of the Sower.

BARE YOUR SWORD

"Tom has Liam Neeson handsomeness." - Tamahome

Tassie Dave: It was cool to see you idiots on video. 😉 Hopefully I can watch IRL next time and comment.
I'm pretty sure laminating stamps will preserve the stamps, but destroy any future value (you idiots 😉 )

Jenny "Tom's pop screen appears to float in space. "Tamahome @tamahome02000

.@swordandlaser Phlebas: I liked the shiny sf Culture stuff more than the gruesome stuff (cough Eaters). The damage chapter was fun. In the end it's pretty dark, but after I got over the hump, one of the last chapters was very dramatic. I even enjoyed the fake appendices.

Dune Pod @dunepod
NEW POD! It’s our 50TH episode and we are delighted to be rejoined by @swordandlaser’s @Veronica to discuss TIME BANDITS (1981). Sean Connery, the evils of modern kitchen appliances, and Veronica sings! It’s a great way to celebrate our big 5-0. https://t.co/DTXt0bg6Sb

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

Next month: The Ruthless Lady's Guide to Wizardry by C.M. Waggoner.

Patron book briefing

Wrap Up

Consider Phlebas by Iain M. Banks

CP: Futility of War

CP: Chapter 6 (possible spoilers)

CP: Final Verdict

ADDENDUMS

Our show is currently entirely funded by our patrons. Thank you to all the folks who back our show and if you would like to support the show that way head to patreon.com/swordandlaser

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S&L Podcast - #415 - DisCon is not for Disco

DisCon is not for Disco but it could be? Why Veronica and Tom aren't idiots. All the summer reading list fodder your list can take. Who was your first binge? And is hard Sci-Fi cold by nature?

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What Are We Drinking?

Tom: St. Francis Cabernet Sauvignon

Veronica: Sauvignon Blanc New Zealand

QUICK BURNS

Silvana: Clarkeaward shortlist has been announced

Mary Robinette Kowal to Chair DisCon III

Mark: New commemorative stamp goes on sale 7/27/2021

Mark: The International Association of Media Tie-In Writers announced the 2021 Scribe Award winners which are mostly Science Fiction titles this year.

Jan: It's summer, and Vulture has released their list of Best of Science Fiction and Fantasy Novels of 2021 (so far)!

Trike: 5 New And Upcoming Sci-FiThrillers You Won’t Want To Put Down

Jan: Goodread has started its Sci-Fi & Fantasy Week July 12

Jan: The Almighty Tor.com has announced the LeVar Burton Reads"" Writing Contest .


BARE YOUR SWORD

Harold Combs @DevHarryC Really like how salty @Veronica is being in @swordandlaser this week.

Author Binges: Authors you have read the most of at once

What's Your S&L Origin Story?

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"Hi Team

I’m pleased you’re reading Banks. For me, there is an interesting point about Banks that works well with the later part of the most recent episode about the nature of diversity and inclusion.

Banks work is very diverse with gender, sexuality and race. A lot of the books talk about gender and sexuality a lot, but not in a preachy way. It is taken for granted that a warrior or spy may be male or female, and sometimes both, and they might be attracted to anyone (or everyone). We see a nice representation of strong and weak characters across all genders.

In The Culture people are free to change gender at will (it takes a few days, you can do it by thinking about it), so being attracted to only one sex doesn’t make any sense in that world.

I’m really impressed at the level of diversity and inclusion in The Culture series considering that the first book is from the 80’s. They still feel very modern, especially as the “science” elements are mostly still quite far out.

The one criticism is that Banks seems to be a bit of a sadist - there’s always a graphic torture scene.

As a straight white male there may be issues that I’m unaware of, but I think he does ok considering that very little of this was on the agenda back in 1987.

It’s hard to identify “the best” Culture book because they are all quite different, but my two favourites are The Player of Games and Excession.

Kind Regards

Will"

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BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

Consider Phlebas by Iain M. Banks

CP: first impressions

CP: Is classic hard science fiction "cold"?


ADDENDUMS

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S&L Podcast - #414 - The Age of Aquarium Shoes

Should Tom enter a book contest? Good Omens season 2 is a good idea. And our final thoughts on Piranesi, problematic and otherwise.

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WHAT ARE WE DRINKING?

Tom: Milkis

Veronica: Bink Syrah

QUICK BURNS

Mark: 2021 Locus Awards Winners announced

Trike: NPR’S Science Friday has a list of new Science Fiction books to read.

Christos: Netflix released another Witcher Season 2 trailer. I am really excited about this, I really liked s1

Jan: Actor/Singer/Songwriter/Multitalent Janelle Monáe has sold the science fiction short fiction collection

Stephen: S&L BOM author Hugh Howey (Wool) is doing it for Science Fiction, SPSFC ( Self Published Science Fiction Contest) is now a thing .

Jan: The winners if the 2021 Kurd Lasswitz Prize for the best German science fiction works and translations have been announced.

Louie: Something Big Is Coming… Revealing John Scalzi’s The Kaiju Preservation Society

Tamahome: The new trailer for Foundation for Apple is out, and they've announced it's coming out September 24th

Mark: Good Omens: The Nice and Accurate Prophecies of Agnes Nutter, Witch Season 2 ordered by Amazon

Mark: When you view the back of the Jade Legacy advance reader copy by Fonda Lee, with the Google Lens app on your phone, a video pops up.

BARE YOUR SWORD

Mark: The Sword & Laser wiki has a new page that could use some eyeballs.

Drake Tungsten @turtleismytotem. First two minutes of Episode 308 - @acedtect: ""Someone did bring their infant to the wedding I was at.""; @Veronica: ""Don't infants just scream incessantly and poop?"

Tamahome @tamahome02000 .@swordandlaser Good luck pronouncing ""Consider Phlebas"", Veronica"

Mark: In Lupin the name of the English Detective varies by publisher and edition. He is known as Herlock Sholmès in US translations, and Holmlock Shears in UK translations. However, there are a few editions of the book where he is known by his true name.

Tamahome: Miyazaki (Princess Mononoke) actually directed an animated Lupin movie years ago, The Castle of Cagliostro. I believe it's on HBO Max.

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

Next book!

Consider Phlebas by Iain M. Banks

WRAP UP

Piranesi by Susannah Clarke

Giovanni Battista Piranesi's Imaginary Prisons

The Prophet ruined the book for me

Point of View

ADDENDUMS

Our show is currently entirely funded by our patrons. Thank you to all the folks who back our show and if you would like to support the show that way head to patreon.com/swordandlaser

You can also support the show by buying books through our links! Find links to the books we talk about and some of our favorites at swordandlaser.com/picks

S&L Podcast - #413 - Herlock Shlomes and the Loss of Innocence

Congrats to the Nebula Award winners! Plus, a nine-year-old forum conversation on cover art continues, and our further thoughts on Piranesi (and how learning things can be a bummer sometimes).

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WHAT ARE WE DRINKING?

Tom: Chateau de Seguin Bordeaux 2018

Veronica: Gun Bun Chardonnay

QUICK BURNS

Mark: SFWA Announces 56th Annual Nebula Award Winners

Trike: N.K. Jemisin announced a new deal with Sony to adapt her Broken Earth trilogy, which she will write.

Christos: WB is making an anime Lord of the Rings prequel about Helms Deep. From Collider "The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim will be directed by Kenji Kamiyama, who started as an animator in such classic films as Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade, and Akira. He's best known for directing the cult classic anime series Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex (the good one, not the Netflix one)."


BARE YOUR SWORD

Not in our Discord? Well here's one of the conversations you missed!

Tamahome — Today at 7:27 AM

What audiobook should I listen to with my mom on a 4 hour trip?

John Nevets — Today at 8:51 AM

4 hours isn't long. Maybe the first Murderbot novella? But based on some of the other stuff your mother hasn't liked in the past, that may be a tough one. How about one or multiple of the Levar Burton reeds: podcasts? https://www.levarburtonpodcast.com/

LeVar Burton Reads: The Best Short Fiction, Handpicked by the Best Voice in Podcasting

LeVar Burton Reads: The Best Short Fiction, Handpicked by the Best Voice in Podcasting

If it is 4 hours each way, so 8 total. You might fit in some of the shorter Discworld books. Those are always fun.

Tamahome — Today at 10:13 AM

Thanks. She doesn’t like fantasy or sf lol. Picked Joe Pickett #2. It’s only 8 hours and has exploding cows.

John Nevets — Today at 11:21 AM

Exploding cows are always fun. Except when not, I live in WI after all. :wink:"

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100 Years of SciFi Tag Map

Cover Art: Is it just me...?

The Clinch - 99 Percent Invisible

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

CHECK IN

Piranesi by Susannah Clarke

How would you name years?

Wish I could remember library school

The dangers of knowledge

S&L Podcast - #412 - The Year Veronica Returned to Sword and Laser

Veronica is back! And we have good news about TorCon, lots of new book recommendations from iO9, thoughts on the phrase "Asian Fantasy' and our kick-off of the June book pick, Piranesi by Susannah Clarke.

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WHAT ARE WE DRINKING?

Tom: Ube Horchata

Veronica: Fort Point KSA

QUICK BURNS

Stephen: TorCon 2021 is happening June 10th to the 13th.

Trike: Being locked in our homes for a year boosted book sales in some countries.

Seth: Sword and Laser author Rebecca Roanhorse has won the Reading the West book award for fiction for her novel Black Sun.

Terpkristin: Tor has acquired 6 Martha Wells books, including 3 Murderbot stories.

Chris: Apple picked up Wool for a TV show.

Trike: io9’s new book roundup. Something for everyone here.

Jan: In Awards News Tor.com reports that the African Speculative Fiction Society has announced its shortlist.

Jan: In What's In A Genre Name? The Trouble With 'Asian Fantasy' NPR explores whether the term "Asian Fantasy" is just reductive or - at least at this point in time - still necessary, as well as what could maybe replace the term.

BARE YOUR SWORD

Mark: If you're curious about science fiction and fantasy awards over the years, check out science fiction awards+ database.

Trike: Here is a fresh list of all the SFF awards.

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Anne: I had to smile when Tom mused about Aperol Spritz. I guess it's a very European drink as it's omnipresent here. Aperol is actually an Italian bitter, comparable to Campari but with less alcohol. It's usual served mixed with sparkling wine and a slice of orange.

So this was your drink fun fact of the day

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I’m a coproducer for a film company in Vancouver, WA. We are looking for sword fighters to cast in a film we are working on. I was wondering if you could ask your fans (I found your facebook page) if anyone in the area is interested in working on this project. More details for those who show interest. They can contact me at bethenielukl@gmail.com, with interest and questions.

Thank you so much for your assistance in this project!

Beth

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

Piranesi by Susannah Clarke

Book briefing

ADDENDUMS

Our show is currently entirely funded by our patrons. Thank you to all the folks who back our show and if you would like to support the show that way head to patreon.com/swordandlaser.

You can also support the show by buying books through our links! Find links to the books we talk about and some of our favorites at swordandlaser.com/picks

S&L Podcast - #411 - Is Murderbot Art's Murderboo?

The final book of the expanse has been handed in for publication. Feelings of joy and sadness hit Tom. Plus, did Murderbot convert Robb Dunewood into a SciFi fan. Find out!

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WHAT ARE WE DRINKING?

Tom: Diet 7-up

Robb: Benner Tea Co. Diet Mango Tea

QUICK BURNS

Richard: Fugitive Telemetry has made Martha Wells a New York Times best seller again. It debuted at 14 in the hardcover fiction best seller list and number 4 in the combined print and e-book list.

Mark: The Canadian Science Fiction and Fantasy Association has announced the 2021 Aurora Awards nominees for works done in 2020 by Canadians, to be voted on by CSFFA members and handed out Oct 16, 2021 at Can-Con.

Alex: The Longlist for the African Speculative Fiction Society’s 2021 Nommo Awards has been announced.

Mark: Punctuation in novels by Adam J Calhoun

Roberator: The final book of the Expanse is complete!

Ruth: Tor dot com have just released a free sampler of their 2021 debut novels

BARE YOUR SWORD

Leesa: re: ""what are we drinking "" I also really like Curious Elixer drinks. #4 (like an Aperol spritz) is my favorite.

PuzzleBound: Something I'm just discovering is the combination of graphic novels from Libby + Kindle app on a tablet. Reading Saga on my nice Galaxy Tab screen I appreciate the incredible artwork even more. And the Kindle app does a surprisingly good job navigating and zooming between cells and pages. I haven't delved much into graphic novels before. It might be time to change that."

Cham1nade: Listening to Robb Dunewood on the latest podcast be happy about discovering scifi he likes is making quite happy, too!

I’m super excited for Veronica to be back, but I’ve loved the guest hosts so much!

Back to Robb Dunewood... I don’t often get to hear the perspective of someone just discovering a genre they hadn’t tried much before. Seeing books through new eyes is so engaging"

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

NEXT BOOK: Veronica is picking it. We'll announce it later this week on Patreon and in Goodreads

WRAP UP

Network Effect: A Murderbot Novel (The Murderbot Diaries)

Seems to have been a hit: @violinknitter: So I should be doing many productive things today. What I *am* doing is devouring Martha Wells’ NETWORK EFFECT for the @swordandlaser bookclub

Chris: When I first encountered the Murderbot series, it was in print. While reading, I kept thinking of Murderbot as female. I'd assumed because the author is female.

Leesa: Kevin R. Free is so good at narrating these stories. I can even tell when Murderbot is saying something parenthetically. My husband and I both laugh out loud a lot.

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ADDENDUMS

Our show is currently entirely funded by our patrons. Thank you to all the folks who back our show and if you would like to support the show that way head to patreon.com/swordandlaser

You can also support the show by buying books through our links! Find links to the books we talk about and some of our favorites at swordandlaser.com/picks

S&L Podcast - #410 - My Kind of Murderbot

We have finalists in the Ignyte awards, Locus awards, some upcoming release dates for new Green Bone Saga stories and why our guest host Robb Dunewood rom the SMR podcast has stopped worrying and learned to love the Murderbot.

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WHAT ARE WE DRINKING?

Tom: Suntory All-Free

Robb: Curious Elixir Number 4

QUICK BURNS

Mark: Finalists for the 2021 Ignyte Awards were announced today, April 22, on Twitter by FIYAH Litererary Magazine

Silvana: FIYAHCon tickets on sale! The fringe event is free, though based on last year, going to the main event is worth every penny :) (FIYAH is a magazine of black speculative fiction)

Mark: LeVar Burton to Guest Host ‘Jeopardy!’ the week of July 26

John (Taloni) Fugitive Telemetry, the sixth Murderbot book, is now out!

Mark: The Locus Science Fiction Foundation has announced the top ten finalists in each category of the 2021 Locus Awards. The Locus Awards winners will be announced June 26, 2021, during the virtual Locus Awards Weekend.

Mark: Jade Legacy by Fonda Lee, the final chapter of the Green Boone Saga, has a release date: November 30 in the US and Canada, December 2 in the UK.

Ms. Lee will also release three Green Bone Saga prequel short stories in September, October and November And in April 2022, The Jade Setter of Janloon, a standalone noir mystery novella set in the Green Bone Saga world, will be published by Subterranean Press.

BARE YOUR SWORD

Trike had an excellent response on Goodreads regarding the question of the rise of the category of Young Adult. here's part of that response

"The first book targeted specifically at teens was Seventeenth Summer by Maureen Daly, in 1942. Publishers were split between calling teen-focused books “juveniles” and “teen reads” through the 40s and 50s, with Robert Heinlein’s 1947-1958 juveniles being among the few which weren’t either romance-themed (“teen reads”) for girls or sports-themed (“juveniles”) for boys.

The ALA created the Young Adult Services Division in 1957. Later that year publishers began calling their juveniles “Young Adult Novels”. Le Guin’s A Wizard of Earthsea (1968) is considered one of the first “modern” YA books, tackling mature themes but aimed at teens.

Look at sci-fi, being all up in there first."

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Joseph added "IIRC, the public library that I went to when I was growing up (so, 1970s into 1980s) had a children's room (with the picture books and the chapter books kind of split up from each other) and a section in a nearby room that was called "teen" but which was functionally the same as what would be YA these days -- kind of that junior high/high school range of books. "

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terpkristin: I liked how Jenny mentioned listening to the Murderbot novellas in the shower. In the before times, I would go to the gym and listen to podcasts while I worked out. There were TVs everywhere and music playing overhead, so I couldn't focus on books. But since covid lockdowns started, I workout on the elliptical in my basement and I listen to books. I wasn't really every super excited about the Murderbot books, but now that one is the pick, I'll probably listen to the novellas while I workout before I start the book. Of course, while I'm in the shower I usually listen to podcasts (but this podcast was while waiting to get bloodwork done this morning). ;) :P

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And if you're worried about Jenny electrocuting herself listenign to podcasts int he shower, rest assured. She clarified "I have the BOOM/Polk Swimmer duo that wraps around my shower caddy very well, and also has a fast forward feature to get through obnoxious commercials on podcasts. "

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

KICK OFF

Network Effect: A Murderbot Novel (The Murderbot Diaries)

Book briefing

MelissaMelody in Discord: This is the most recent book in the series tho, and having read the series it is rather dependent on the previous novellas....

Roberator in Discord: I dont' feel like you need to read ALL of the novellas, but I feel like 2 and 3 are pretty important. and if you're going to read those 2, you should read the first.. and if you've read the first 3...

BethMitcham in Discord: If you decide to go back and read the novellas you will have the pleasure of knowing where things are going, which is a joy those of us who read in order will never have. Swings and roundabouts.

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ADDENDUMS

Our show is currently entirely funded by our patrons. Thank you to all the folks who back our show and if you would like to support the show that way head to patreon.com/swordandlaser

You can also support the show by buying books through our links! Find links to the books we talk about and some of our favorites at swordandlaser.com/picks

S&L Podcast - #409 - Home is the People We Choose

Hugo awards are out and we’ve almost read all the authors! Jenny Colvin from Reading Envy is back but we also have hints of a new forthcoming host of Sword and Laser. Plus our last delightful thoughts about the House in the Cerulean Sea!

WHAT ARE WE DRINKING?

Tom: Coffee Dalgona

Jenny: Peppermint Bark Tea

QUICK BURNS

Any news or announcements

Mark and Jan: Hugos!

Richard: The Only Good Indians by Stephen Graham Jones won the 2020 Ray Bradbury Prize for Science Fiction, Fantasy & Speculative Fiction.

Elizabeth: Lois McMaster Bujold accidentally wrote a novel-length Penric installment:

BARE YOUR SWORD - add time stamp!

Feedback from the audienceJerry Perez: Finished this today. Great audiobook production. Fantastical story that needs to be a television series yesterday! (The City We Became by NK Jemisin)

Trike: Young Adult and New Adult are the only marketing-derived genres. I know a lot of people believe that all genres are marketing gimmicks, but it isn’t true. With only a couple exceptions, most genres existed before modern marketing, and the few which arose after the type of advertising we associate with contemporary entertainment faced an uphill battle of acceptance because they originated among the unwashed public. The high-falutin gatekeepers always dismiss things which come from the lowly filthy rabble.

In the Before Times my PhD thesis was on genres, which is why I can state that with such certainty. It began as a focus on film genre but morphed into all genres. Just to underscore how “before” it was, the first draft of my paper began before Urban Fantasy was named.

I’m an old.

From the Discord:

Tassie Dave: I expect we will get more author interviews once Veronica finishes her Maternity Leave. The last one was Dennis E. Taylor (of the Bobiverse) last July.
Tamahome — 04/06/2021
When does Veronica finish?
Tassie Dave — 04/06/2021
They never said when. I guess when she has time. Which I'd guess would be when her son turns 18 Kenley Neufeld: Just completed “House in the Cerulean Sea” for @swordandlaser. A sweet and funny story of love, discrimination, goodness, and magic. Now turning to “The Luminous Dead” for something completely different.

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

NEXT MONTH

Network Effect: A Murderbot Novel (The Murderbot Diaries)

Our May host will be Robb Dunewood of the SMR Podcast (and our June host is scheduled to be Adobe Product Manager, Veronica Belmont)

WRAP UP

The House in the Cerulean Sea by TJ Klune

Kharl — 04/14/2021
I was a bit skeptical about the book at the start, thinking it a bit childish. Man was I glad I looked past that. What a wonderful story./dev/tea — 04/13/2021
Just finished, and this book is a perfect case in point for why I love the Sword and Laser. I mentioned before that I voted against this pick every time. I wouldn't have picked this up in a hundred years, but it was a great read and as someone else said, utterly charming.GrannyWeatherwax — Yesterday at 7:44 PM
Really enjoyed it. It was a cozy listen as an audiobook. I appreciated the science fantasy setting: both the vague dystopian part and the cerulean sea. I liked how the characters were generally kind and made in-character decisions. I also appreciated that it had a plot—which resolved! Several other feel-good science fiction novels from recent years had wonderful settings and characters, but not much plot. THITCS had all three.

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Leesa
I am going to miss the kids now that I am done with the story.

swarbs — 04/18/2021
I'm almost tempted to dip into fan fic for this one, it would be great fodder for sort of slice of life stories. Talia entering a garden competition, or Chaunceys first day as a real bell hop, something like that. There could have been another hundred pages of that sort of stuff in the book and I'd have read it happily.

ADDENDUMS

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You can also support the show by buying books through our links! Find links to the books we talk about and some of our favorites at swordandlaser.com/picks/

S&L Podcast - #408 - You Can't Spell Young Adult without Adult

WorldCon is delayed but it's not canceled and we have other awards to tide you over. Plus the hard scifi argument over Blindsight rises like a vampire at night and we kick off our April read, The House in the Cerulean Sea by TJ Klune with special guest host from Reading Envy Jenny Colvin!

WHAT ARE WE DRINKING?

Tom: MR. BROWN Iced Coffee – Caramel Latte

Jenny: Potter's Craft Cider - Strawberry Ginger Cider

QUICK BURNS

WorldCon 2021 has been delayed from August to December 15th through the 19th.

Jan: Tor.com reports that HarperColllins will release a special new omnibus edition of Lord of the Rings that will feature Tolkien's own drawings created for the trilogy.

Mark: Lost Russian made-for-tv adaptation of Lord of the Rings found; now on Youtube

Mark: The 2021 Lammy finalists for LGBTQ Science Fiction/Fantasy/Horror are in. Winners in all categories to be announced June 1 at a virtual Lammys ceremony which is free for all to attend.

Mark: The 2021 Philip K. Dick Award Winner for distinguished original science fiction paperback published for the first time during 2020 in the U.S.A.

Jan: And the British Science Fiction Awards have been awarded as well --- the winner for Best Novel is The City We Became by N.K. Jemisin!

Jan: Geek & Sundry "Critical Role" will in partnership with Penguin Random House and Del Rey publish its first fantasy novel "Kith & Kin will hit shelves October 26, 2021.


BARE YOUR SWORD

"In our Discord: PuzzleBound — Yesterday at 2:05 PM

I just finished The Goblin Emperor and went back and listened to the related S&L episodes from 2015. I came for the Goblin Emperor discussion but stayed for everything else. The time capsule nature of the podcasts are so great. Debates about how HBO could best finish Game of Thrones, the perfect tv show, now that we've caught up to the books. Hype around Station Eleven featuring a far fetched global pandemic. The imminent release of Book 4 of The Gentlemen Bastards series. Full confidence in the awesomeness of a Ready Player One helmed by Steven Spielberg. A nice reminder of how unknowable the future is."

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" TT Linse @tt_linse

@swordandlaser Seriously, you all are manna from heaven for lonely readers in the hinterlands!!"

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"Also from Discord: Aaron Bell — 04/05/2021

Reading/listening Blindsight for another book club. this one has been on my list for a long time. So do space-faring vampires make it a Sword or a Laser? It seems to lean heavily to the latter, but I am only 15% in.

It looks like this was an S&L read back in 2011.

Tassie Dave — 04/05/2021

I remember at the time that Blindsight was pitched as being ""Hard Science Fiction"" which a few people had a problem with, because Vampires. :face_with_raised_eyebrow: :bat: :vampire: :bat: I think most people see it as sci-fi, but maybe not Hard sci-fi. " https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/537291-is-this-truly-hard-sci-fi

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Terpkristin: SOOOO excited to see Jenny as guest host! Also wow a book I voted for won. This is the first time that's happened in March Madness I think. :)

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

Reading the runner up Gods of Jade and Shadow by Silvia Moreno-Garcia

KICKOFF

The House in the Cerulean Sea by TJ Klune


Thanks Jenny from Reading Envy

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S&L Podcast - #407 - The Strength of Family and Ghosts

Alex Brown is back, the Nebula nominess are out and they are great! We also discover new teas, the real flavor of crab chips, and talk about our thoughts on Elatsoe by Darci Little Badger.

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WHAT ARE WE DRINKING?

Tom: Ito En Matcha Milk Tea

Alex: Adagio Ace Pride Tea

QUICK BURNS

Mark and Tamahome: The Science Fiction Writers of America announced finalists for the 2021 Nebula Awards.
The results of the final ballot will be announced at the 56th Annual Nebula Awards® ceremony during the 2021 Nebula Conference Online, June 4–6, 2021

Julie: N. K. Jemisin’s Inheritance Trilogy to be developed for TV.

Joanna: Margaret Atwood’s Maddadam trilogy is being developed as TV series at Hulu, and The Handmaid‘s Tale had already been renewed for a fifth season.

Joanna: Victoria Schwab’s City of Ghosts series is in works at ABC Signature and Searchlight Television.

Richard: UK watch dog to review the Bertelsmann takeover of Simon & Schuster.

Rob: Will Wight's Bloodline (Cradel: Volume 9) is coming out April 9th

Ruth: Good news! Peter S Beagle, author of The Last Unicorn, has regained control of the rights to his own work.

BARE YOUR SWORD

Trike: OMG the cake thing! Cakes should not look like other food! I co-sign that so hard my pencil breaks. Cakes can look like other things, but never food. Never ever, ick. Here’s a plug for my cousin’s cake-making skills. Toss her some likes.

Treasure chest cake

Super Mario game cake

Cameron McCrorie (Meat Popsicle) @McCrorieBooks @swordandlaser @acedtect well its only taken 5 years and 32 minutes but that's me caught up with s&l podcasts lol. #onwardsandupwards

Dale: @gnarm with another suggestion for Crystal! Night Train To Rigel, by Timothy Zahn, and Station Breaker, by Andrew Mayne. Action with little/no combat or violence. Mysteries are the type ‘hero gets dropped in the middle of things, and has to figure out what the heck is going on’.

And a recommendation from Alex: Witchmark CL Polk

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terpkristin: I feel like it's my responsibility to say that crab chips don't taste like crab (that I know of) but the seasoning that is put onto crabs, Old Bay. Old Bay is a combo of like salt, pepper, paprika, and some other stuff. I put it on corn on the cob, eggs, anything from my work's cafe (they undersalt; it's particularly good on their egg salad sandwich), popcorn, chicken breast...

I've also had the Flying Dog Old Bay Summer Ale. It was ok but kind of weird. I could see having it at a cookout. Maybe just 1 bottle/can, though.

I enjoyed this episode. I didn't know what to expect from Elatsoe but I am really enjoying it. I saw someone else compare it to Veronica Mars and I think that's a great comparison. Hey Tom & Alex, and congratulations to Veronica!

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I heard you discuss the possibility that in this month's book pick, Elatsoe, the name Willoughby may be related to the Twilight Zone episode called "A Stop at Willoughby" - and I hope you're right - but I wanted to let the listeners know that we're a real place, too!

Even though I've claimed I'm from Cleveland for years, I'm actually from a small suburb about 20 miles east called WIlloughby, and I've lived in this area almost my entire life.

Rumor is that while travelling between college in western Ohio and home in eastern New York each year, Rod Serling's train would stop here, and he found it so idyllic that he used the town as the ultimate reward in his Twilight Zone episode.

There doesn't seem to be any other supporting evidence for why he chose that name, and there are other theories, but we are the only town in the country named Willoughby, and his train would have stopped here, so who knows?

Either way we embrace it at our Last Stop Willoughby festival every non-pandemic year. If any of the listeners want to enjoy a slightly weird town festival in August, now you've got a place to go!

Here's a link

-Chris

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSIONN

Next Month: The House in the Cerulean Sea by TJ Klune

WRAP UP

Elatsoe by Darcie Little Badger

@MitchamBeth
ELATSOE, Darcy Little Badger. Teen Ellie has an rare superpower -- she and her parents trust each other. This helps her defeat the baddie. Oh, she can also summon the dead; this probably came in handy. But mostly the trust. @swordandlaser #Cybils2020 #YA

Jenny (reading Envy) Narrator - Kinsale Hueston - I enjoyed reading about the narrator, who is a poet and a member of the Navajo nation herself. She was once profiled in Time Magazine. She's a *cough* influencer *cough* as well.

John: The illustrations in the hardback book are amazing.
At the start of each chapter there is a "hero style" illustration that presents a scene from the story
I am about 250 pages in and thus far they have perfectly captured the mood and spirit of the story and I have come to enjoy them as much as I have the writing.

Tassie Dave added
There are chapter heading illustrations in the Kindle version as well. They are great.

And Iain added
Rovina Cai, gorgeous pencils...

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S&L Podcast - #406 - The Joy of Rat Skeletons

Alex Brown is here and we talk about all the excellent books getting nominated for and winning awards. Plus why Amazon won't sell ebooks to libraries, how animated rat skeletons are pretty awesome and we kick off our March book, Elatsoe!

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WHAT ARE WE DRINKING?

Tom: Oreo Cream Cheese Milk Tea

Alex: Peppermint Tea

QUICK BURNS

Ruth: the British Fantasy Awards were announced!

Richard: Netflix has just come out with a trailer to the new series based on Shadow and Bone by Leigh Bardugo.

A trailer for Season 4 of The Handmaid's Tale coming April 28 to Hulu

Seth: The LA times posted the nominees for their The Ray Bradbury Prize for science fiction, fantasy and speculative fiction.

Mark: Finalists Announced for the 26th (2021) Audie Awards

Seth: Nghi Vo wins the Crawford award for best fantasy debut with the novel The Empress of Salt and Fortune

Richard: The Perserverence Rover's Red Planet touchdown site has been renamed for Octavia E. Butler, the noted African American science fiction author

Jan: Speaking of Octavia E. Butler: Disney-owned FX is adapting Octavia E. Butler's book "Kindred" as a TV series.

Sheila Jean: Amazon was not providing digital copies to libraries, period.

March madness is here!

Semifinal matches so go vote on Goodreads!

BARE YOUR SWORD

terpkristin: Someone once walked into my office and said, ""I know you're from Maryland because you have Old Bay on your desk."" I love Old Bay and I enjoy crab chips but I once had crab cheese puffs and they were infinitely better. For regular snacking I do sour cream & onion or sour cream & cheddar, preferably in the ridged variety. For all my love of Old Bay, though, I'm allergic to actual crabs. Go figure. Related to the topic of Old Bay, the University of Maryland School of Engineering newsletter gave a recipe for Old Bay snickerdoodles around Christmas. I haven't tried to make them yet. But I did finally pick up cream of tartar to do so.

Ruth: I’m intrigued by the idea of the crab chips but they don’t seem to be available over here in the UK. The closest thing is probably these “Firecracker Lobster” flavour chips ......After posting my comment about crab chips not being available in the UK I immediately realised that I had somehow momentarily forgotten that, while I’ve never seen crab flavour chips, prawn cocktail flavour is literally everywhere. (It mostly tastes like tomato ketchup tbh)

And Trike: My stance against food that tastes like other food is justified. I present Exhibit A: Pringles potato chips that taste like Moa Burgers from the Halo video game. Moa, as in the giant flightless bird. De-extincted for a sci-fi franchise, only to be served up for dinner. Now the imaginary bird food (food bird?) can be had in chip form."

@MitchamBeth

THE FOLD, Peter Clines. Ginormous flying transdimensional monsters are why we can't have nice things. I enjoyed watching the mild English teacher break out of his shell as he unfolds the mystery. (Hey, what if zoom calls worked as gates?)

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

Elatsoe by Darcie Little Badger

ADDENDUMS

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S&L Podcast - #405 - Above The Fold

The hosts of the SMR Podcast join Tom to discuss The Fold by Peter Clines. Is the main character overpowered? Can they convince Christ to read the book? Plus why kids these days get to tour potato chip factories AND the beginning of March madness!

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WHAT ARE WE DRINKING?

Tom: Coca Cola - Mini

Rod: San Pellegrino Tangerine and Wild Strawberry

Robb: Diet Cherry Vanilla Dr. Pepper

Chris: Lemonade Propel

QUICK BURNS

Joanna: The BSFA Awards shortlist for 2020 had been announced.

Trike: George R.R. Martin to produce Roger Zelazny’s Roadmarks for HBO.

Richard: James E. Gunn has passed away at the age of 97. He is known for his works The Listeners and The Immortals.

Trike: Redwall by Brian Jacques to be turned into an animated feature film and a TV series by Netflix.

March madness is here!

Brackets

BARE YOUR SWORD

Terpkristin: I’m jealous of the kids that get to field trip to the utz factory. I grew up in MD and we did all kinds of field trips to local things (MD Science Center, Baltimore Aquarium, Goddard Space Flight Center, many Smithsonian museums, Mount Vernon, etc) but never the utz factory.

From @MitchamBeth THE MARROW THIEVES, Cherie Dimaline. A great post-apocalyptic road story (only they avoid roads) layered with the traumas and inspirations of reclaiming First Nation culture. There's personal and cultural loss and rediscovery.

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

Next month!

Elatsoe by Darcie Little Badger

My guest host will be Alex Brown, librarian, local historian, author and Tor & Locus reviewer will join us as our guest host in March.

WRAP UP

The Fold by Peter Clines

Contrasting views

Ruth: I DNF’ed this pretty quickly as I just found the characters flat and the story uninteresting. Reading the spoiler-protected stuff above, I’m glad I quit when I did as I think I’d have found it all really annoying, especially the [ nerd-guy-gets-the-cheerleader thing (hide spoiler)] which is a trope I HATE. "Leesa: I enjoyed the story. It was fast-paced, funny, and nutty. Light weird fiction! Just what I needed!

Terpkristin: I don't need every book to be unique. I don't need it to be special. I need it to be engaging (and lately, not depressing). I enjoyed the romp. Perfect? Absolutely not. But a fun read.

Jenny (reading Envy) - the author is missing such a great opportunity based on his narrator - this guy has a photographic memory? Why is her hair brown and not a specific Pantone shade, like 19-1228, 18-1033, or 19-1012? Surely at some point he's read a paint sample catalog or crayon wrapper. I mean... brown?

ADDENDUMS

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S&L Podcast - #404 - A Page Turner in the Best Sense

So many new reading list suggestions from Locus to the ALA to TheMarySue. Plus George RR Martin updates on his progress. And Rod Simmons from SMR Podcast is here to disucss this month's pick The Fold by Peter Clines.

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WHAT ARE WE DRINKING?

Tom: UCC Mango Cream Soda

Rod: S.Pellegrino Essenza Blood Orange & Black Raspberry

QUICK BURNS

Mark: Ty Franke and Wes Chatham will continue their discussions about the Expanse in a podcast

Mark: Star Trek: TNG's Commander Data, Brent Spiner, will write a fictional autobiography noir thriller titled Fan Fiction: A Mem-Noir: Inspired by True Events for release Oct 2021.

Jan: The Mary Sue has posted their list of the 15 Most Anticipated Diverse Sci-Fi/Fantasy Novels of 2021

Mark: The Monster at the End of this Book by Jon Stone, illustrated by Michael J. Smollin is 50 years old.

Jan Via Tor.com: Elan Mastai’s 2017 time travel novel "All Our Wrong Todays" is being adapted by himself as a TV series for the Peacock streaming service.

Aaron: Preserve JRR Tolkien’s Former Home as a Public Writing Haven

Silvana: 2020 Locus recommended reading list is out!

Trike: George R.R. Martin says 2020 allowed him to make the most progress yet on the oft-delayed next installment of Song of Ice and Fire, writing “hundreds of pages.”

Jenny (Reading Envy): I thought you would find it interesting that after picking two post-apocalyptic reads, Mallory and Brea did an episode on hopeful reads for their own podcast.

Terpkristin: Studio Ghibli is now building a "real" Howl's Moving Castle. It won't move, but it looks like it will be a part of the Studio Ghibli theme park being built in Japan.

Seth: The American Library Association reading recommendations for 2020 are out.

Dominik: Chris Hadfield wrote a novel! It's an alt history thriller about space murders, set in the early 70s, and currently up for preorder

We will be doing our March madness tournament for the April book pick, so get your nominations in for what should be in the tournament!

BARE YOUR SWORD

Tassie Dave - I give many books I enjoyed 3 stars, including The Marrow Thieves. I save 4 and 5 Stars for above average or exceptional books. I wish Goodreads had ½ stars or an out of 10 system for more nuance.
I'm not a fan of rating systems like Uber, Yelp etc that treat anything lower than 5 Stars as a poor rating.

Some folks like Rick advocated for the Yes No ratng system similar to Netflix but Jan disagreed "I don't like the Rotten Tomatoes system (sorry, Tom) where you count the percentages of Yes vs No reviews. A fantastic movie with 90% raving reviews would reach the same score as a middle of the road flick that doesn't offend or excite anyone and has 90% "It's fine" reviews...

I wonder if Big Data wouldn't be better these days recommending media to you based on what you've read or clicked in the past. I mean Spotify had become over time really, really good at recommending me stuff - until I made a playlist for my dad that is..

To Which Trike responded "The folks who work at Rotten Tomatoes are aware of this, to the point that they now have a podcast called “Rotten Tomatoes Is Wrong.” 😂"

Jenny: I have similar feelings to Mallory about The Sparrow. I had read it before S&L read it, didn't reread it then, still haven't been able to read the sequel. One of these years I might be ready.
And you know, I love The Handmaid's Tale but the show version gave me terrible nightmares. I had to take 2 weeks between episodes of the first season and almost stopped watching after episode 3? 4? And never returned to additional seasons. I thought it was funny that my husband, who has no investment in one of my favorite books, was able to soldier on through, whereas I couldn't take it. Then again, I do live in this state so maybe it's too close for comfort

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

The Fold by Peter Clines

AndrewP: Is this book 1 or book 2 of a series? Goodreads says it's #2, but Amazon says it's #1.

Richard: I've read all four of the series, and especially enjoyed 14 and The Fold--Dead Moon kind of faltered, and Terminus is OK. The Fold definitely works as a standalone with a couple Easter eggs if you read 14. I strongly recommend the audiobooks; Ray Porter knocks it out of the park.

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S&L Podcast - #403 - Like a Santa Hat on Ursula K. Leguin

Mallory O'Meara from Reading Glasses is back and she's very skeptical about adapting the Sparrow for television. The hands alone! Also new Game of Thrones universe TV options and our final thoughts on The Marrow Thieves by Cherie Dimaline.

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WHAT ARE WE DRINKING?

Tom: Talisker 10 year (for Burns Night on the 25th)

Mallory: High Wire Distilling New Southern Revival

QUICK BURNS

Jan: The Historical Dictionary of Science Fiction

John (Taloni) Heaven's River, the 4th Bobiverse book, is out of its Audible exclusive period and now available in ebook format.

Eric: Update to my last quick burn, apparently Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman have worked a licensing deal with Wizards of the Coast for a new Dragonlance Trilogy.

Jan: According to Variety the ‘Tales of Dunk and Egg’ by George R R Martin are now in early development at HBO.

Jan: Variety reports that the production companies "Stampede Ventures and "wiip" have partnered to adapt the first book in Gareth L. Powell’s epic sci-fi novel series “Embers of War”

Jan: The nominees for the 2021 Philip K. Dick Award have been announced.

Trike: Ursula K. Le Guin will be on a commemorative US postage stamp.

Trike: Queen’s Gambit showrunner to adapt Mary Doria Russell’s The Sparrow as a limited series on FX.

Jan: According to Deadline the "Powder Mage" trilogy by Brian McClellan is set to be adapted as a TV Series.

John: Tor have a blog post with details of books to be released in 2021

BARE YOUR SWORD

Feedback from the audienceMark: The Sword & Laser Wiki has 200 pages! to which Tassie Dave added "I guess I'm responsible for the majority of those. 😉 At an educated guess I'd say I've made over 150 pages 😮 and contributed to at least another 10+ pages and I'd say Mark has contributed to more pages than me 180+ "

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Ruth: On the subject of dreams, .... I actually love the ‘monster’ kind of nightmares though because they are like my own private horror movies.Last night’s was a zombie dream where some ‘local teens’ had gone into some old abandoned mines/caves in a small town somewhere in the US and there had been an accident. I was a reporter who went to the town looking for a story. The mines/caves had been covered over with plastic sheeting but you can bet it didn’t stay that way for long! I’d watch that movie!
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Jan: There was recently an interesting episode of the Scriptnotes podcast where Maria Dahvana Headley talked about her new feminist translation of Beowulf and explained that every translation (especially from a dead language) is always an adaptation as words can mean different things or are not directly translatable at all. A good example can be found in this review of her tranlsation that shows how Headly sets a completely different tone by translating the opening intensifier Hwæt as "Bro!" and not for example “Lo!” like Tolkien did. In any case, that discussion did make me wanna read that translation of Beowulf very much! On a slightly more mundane level: In Germany it was in the 70s quite common to dub TV shows in a way that had nothing to do with the original. The "I Spy" TV show was for example turned from a more realistic spy drama with some humor into a goofy show with meta humor and puns every other sentence. But I don't know any case where that happened to novels (or at least modern ones)

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Mark: Ok. No one else has brought up the heffalump in the room podcast. Mallory just blew through the difficult author names like they weren't there. What's up with that?

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

NEXT MONTH

The Fold by Peter Clines

Picked by our February guest host, Rod Simmons form the SMR Podcast!

WRAP UP

The Marrow Thieves by Cherie Dimaline

Lisa: Maybe I'm being too literal, but am I the only one who thought that from a practical standpoint it just didn't make any sense that they were killing off the indigenous people? Even if the marrow that they extract is a cure (vs. a treatment) for the dreamlessness, how do they know they won't run out of Indians before they treat the whites? And what if it recurs later, either in the same people or future generations?
Possibly even darker than killing the indigenous people would be keeping them as breeding stock, like slaves, like another species. Is that too dark for a YA book? Was Dimaline trying to keep the story simpler?

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Ruth: Weirdly, I felt like it was darker than I’d expected. I found that there was so much hopelessness within the book, to me this shadowed even the uplifting parts. Maybe because I hope people are better than show here, despite what history shows us.
Edit: Actually, thinking about it more, I think this books seemed bleak to me for the same reason isn’t didn’t to Trike - groups like the ones in this novel have already been so appallingly treated in the very recent past (or it still goes on) and that is very upsetting to me. It makes it harder to distance myself from the dystopia of it all.
I agree ... the narration is excellent!

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John: I finished the book a few days ago and have to say I hugely enjoyed it.
It was refreshing to read a story where the "plot" was firmly in the background, and the focus was very much on the characters and their development. Those portraits were excellent and I got a very strong sense of their struggle to survive.
I didn't have any expectations going into the book and certainly didn't find it bleak. The fact that [French was reunited with his father ] and [Miig and Isaac were reunited \o/ ] made
Good choice - 5 stars from me and I am looking forward to the next guest pick

Reading Glasses Podcast

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S&L Podcast - #402 - A tripod has three legs....

Mallory O'Meara from The Reading Glasses podcast joins Tom to talk about The Marrow Thieves, dreams and why a top hat might make sense on an HG wells commemorative coin. But not four legs on a tripod.

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A Message from the Office of Veronica Belmont

"Hopefully everyone is watching this dope ass season of the Expanse!

I’m trying to read along this month!

I also finished the new Bob"

WHAT ARE WE DRINKING?

Tom: Dalmore Scotch

Mallory: Ol Dominick Huling Station

QUICK BURNS

Jan: TheOneRing.net has posted the official synopsis for Amazon Studios’ Lord of the Rings series.

Jan: Polygon has released their list of the Best Science Fiction and Fantasy novels of 2020.

Jan: Lotus Mag has published on their website an article with a short introduction into Science Fiction in Germany.

Eric: Dragonlance Nexus is reporting that a New Dragonlance book by Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman will be coming July of 2021

Trike: UK’s new commemorative coin honoring H.G. Wells. American designer gives The War of the Worlds tripods four legs and The Invisible Man a top hat.

BARE YOUR SWORD

We had loads of suggestions for Crystal who wanted "SFF that’s not action driven? Like SFF murder mystery or very minimal violence?"

Terpkristin: The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet. I guess it had some action in it, but I remember that there wasn't much violence. There's also The Strange Case of the Alchemist's Daughter

Phil: Callahan's Crosstime Saloon and The Caves of Steel

Joanna: Wilde Investigations series by Laura Laakso starting with Fallible Justice.

Jenny (Reading Envy) The City & the City by China Mieville is famously written in mystery style for his mother who didn't care for fantasy....

To which Seth added: Mieville's Embassytown is another title where the action is more intellectual than physical. I liked Jo Walton's trilogy starting with The Just City too, it's another one where most of the action is cerebral.

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Ruth (tilltab) Ashworth: Interesting to hear... Was it Mallory?.. talking about dreams. I have always had very vivid, detailed dreams, but I have fewer dreams now than I used to, which makes me sad. Dreams, to me, are this wonderful way to experience so many amazing things. There is also the delightful fact that a lovely long hug I experience in a dream is indistinguishable in memory from a real one - the feelings are the same, and it it comforting to me to know that however far away they might be, my friends can pop into my dreams to give me a hug when I need one. So my feelings about dreams are totally the opposite of Mallory's and I can appreciate how awful it would be to lose the ability to dream, and why one might consider it reasonable to kill to get that ability back. I'm very interested in this book. Count me in for this one!

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION (NON-SPOILERY)

The Marrow Thieves by Cherie Dimaline

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"Leesa: I found that it wasn't very dark, or dismal, or too dystopian. The part that has most people despairing--about Metis and other native/first nations being harvested--is relegated to (mostly) back-story. I found it more like The Ten Thousand Doors of January than Parable of the Sower .

Dimaline writes very believably and I could see very clearly the scenes she was setting. Examples such as (view spoiler) and (view spoiler) and I could absolutely see that and understand what the body language is conveying.

Also, the (audiobook) narrator, Meegwun Fairbrother, was VERY good. I'm very happy they picked someone from First Nations to narrate.

If you like anything with a Native American/First Nations/Metis feel, this is in your wheelhouse. It's definitely in mine.

I went ahead and gave this 5 stars. I'm happy I made the extra effort to find this in audio, which is my preferred method for consuming media.

ETA: I filed this in both Tom and Veronica for the S&L goals. LOL. It's dystopian, which is generally filed under Sci fi/speculative, but the concept of Native marrow being linked to dreaming was more like Jade City and California Bones, so I filed it under both. :)

Fight Me.

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Ruth (tillitab) Ashworth: I was excited to read this book because of the intriguing concept. Dreams are important to me, and I wondered what I would do to get them back if I lost them. I knew this wouldn’t be the main perspective in this book, but I’d expected the motivations to be explored and delved into and they weren’t really. I felt rather disappointed, which is unfair, because I can hardly be upset with a book simply for not telling the story I wanted it to.

This got me wondering what other books might have defied expectations, and whether this was a good or bad thing. Another example for me, and one we’ve read, was Lovecraft Country, which I had expected would continue the creepy inheritance story set in a house in the middle of the woods, and I was surprised, and initially, disappointed when it changed directions. In the end, I found I enjoyed the book all the more for surprising me, though I would still have happily read the story I epected. "

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Iain: Hi, motivated by this months pick I realised I had never read any Australian indigenous SF&F.. this led me on a mostly fruitless search for Some writers which after much searching I found a couple.

The Interrogation of Ashala Wolf is another YA SF book set after the apocalypse (and after the recovery) with indigenous themes that are very similar to the Marrow thieves. The stolen generation informs the book with young people scraping institutions. It leans heavily on indigenous mythology and the Australian landscape. It also has similarities with the New Mutants. If you like TMT this is worth a look. The author, Ambelin Kwaymullina, is from the Palyku people in NW Australia.

I have The Old Lie by Claire G. Coleman which looks like hard SF with an indigenous take on my TBR list as well

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S&L Podcast - #401 - More Like Dys-HOPE-ia, right?

We learn the mysteries of the fig newton and Fangtasia. PLUS we kickoff our January book with a SURPRISE GUEST and how Parable of the Sower ended making Brea and Tom more hopeful. (Go catch Brea on the Reading Glasses podcast)

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WHAT ARE WE SNACKING?

Tom: Candycane Cocoa

Brea: Fortunato Number 4 Chocolate

QUICK BURNS

Shad: This year's State of the Sanderson

Jan: According to Deadline Universal Pictures has won a bidding war over the rights to an adaptation of the graphic novel "The Electric State" with Millie Bobby Brown attached as the lead, the Russo Brothers as directors and Marcus & McFeely as writers.

John: Pre orders are open for The Galaxy, and the Ground Within - book 4 of the Wayfarers series. Woop woop

Rob says: We got a few more donations since my last update bringing our final total to: $5,745.70!

This exceeds our amount from 2019 by $270.00.

The end of year Worldbuilders drive goes to Heifer International, which provides long-term solutions to give people a hand up so they can pull themselves (and ultimately, their whole community) out of poverty. Heifer’s programs start with education, feature a common sense approach at a local level, and have a proven track record of sustainability and a far-reaching ripple effect of people helping others to thrive.

This year we had 29 donors, which is 2 more than we had last year. This includes 9 Anonymous donations.

2020 Donors
Mark Martinez
Erik Reimers
Elizabeth Mitcham
Todd Carrozzi
Sheila Jean
The Roberator
Jann McKenzie
Robin Madeiros
Dan Bowers
Kirsten Love
Lara Eakins
Blair Robinson
Shannon Clark
Michael Beam
Seth Warburton
David Jenkins
Rebecca Powell
Leesa Hanagan
Kirsty Walls
Sheri Johnson
Anthony Robertson

Thanks and Happy Holidays to you and your family.

BARE YOUR SWORD

From @veronica: @ryan
and I are so excited welcome our son Julian to the world. Grateful, humbled, and awestruck by this little dude.

Pri: Thank you Brea (@ReadingGPodcast )for letting me know about the @OParables so I can listen along while reading for @swordandlaser . This is perfection!

Crystal asked: another book request. Any suggestions for an SFF that’s not action driven? Like SFF murder mystery or very minimal violence? I want to like SFF but I feel like I’m picking the wrong books for me. Still looking for DND in a tavern mystery too.

Jan wrote: I am snacking on a homemade pre-breakfast Christmas cookie while listening In any case: Great episode! Thank you, Brea, it has been a delight.

And congratulations on 400 episodes! Reading the 404 jokes (you really have to skip that number!) I have to say that I am looking forward to 420 end of next year - maybe we can celebrate that milestone instead!
Other than that (let me change into my Santa hat) - I wish everyone a happy holiday of their choosing - stay safe and healthy (and sane)! Have a great 2021 with lots of swords and lasers - it can only get better!

Meghan wrote "The club in True Blood was called "Fangtasia". The books and the Alan Ball series are quite a bit different so interested to see where they go with a reboot.The book series is mainly focused on Sookie with the other characters less prominently featured. I enjoyed them as fast, easy reading.

Tamahome noted: "[Fig Newtons] The company named the pastries after the town of Newton, Massachusetts. After recently becoming associated, the Kennedy Biscuit Company and the New York Biscuit company merged to form Nabisco. The new company trademarked the fig rolls as Fig Newtons."

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

JANUARY KICK OFF

The Marrow Thieves by Cherie Dimaline

Book briefing

DECEMBER WRAP UP

Parable of the Sower (Parable 1) by Octavia E. Butler

Seth notes: I'm about halfway through now, and so far I like that Earthseed seems to be a pretty down-to-earth philosophy / religion. There is definitely the idea (in some philosophy and religion as well as fantasy fiction) that daily life is a hindrance to discerning truth. Specifically, I thought about Bran in Game of Thrones - his character suffers partial paralysis which removes him almost completely from his old life and seems to facilitate him receiving visions, etc. In a world as gritty as Westeros this seemed funny to me. In PotS, a similarly gritty world, I like that the truth Lauren pursues is more practical. It just seems to fit better.

Stephen says "I finished the tale. I found most of the violence to be offstage, more of a newspaper report than a police report with all its gory detail. I also found the tale more hopeful, as the main character goes from being afraid and untrusting to becoming more sure of herself and willing to take a chance on individuals. Plus the tale took place in my neck of the world, a path I myself have traveled many times as both lakes mentioned in the tale are fabulous for fishing.

Kenley: Dr. Monica Coleman and Tananarive Due have been hosting a series during the pandemic called Octavia Tried to Tell Us: Parable for Today's Pandemic. So far there has been ten discussions with as many different guests. Definitely some fun and interesting conversations. Check it out.

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S&L Podcast - #400 - Boxing Day Experts

Lots of great books are turning into TV shows and movies and lots of great book recommendation lists are coming out! We also become experts on Boxing Day and are BLOWN AWAY by Trike's Sword and laser word search. And Brea and Tom make recommendations of when NOT to read Parable of the Sower.

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WHAT ARE WE SNACKING?

Tom: Nature's Bakery Fig Newton-like Cookies

Brea: Dark Chocolate Morsels by Enjoy Life

QUICK BURNS

Robyn: Dune is one of 17 of its 2021 titles that Warner Media will air on HBO Max at the same time they play in theaters.

Jan: We have the winners of this year's Goodreads Choice Awards

Rob noted an article on Polygon saying The Expanse will only go on pause after it's concluding season on Prime Video next year

Mark: HBO is planning to reboot True Blood, the television series based on the vampire novels by Charlaine Harris.

Mark: Starlight Media Developing TV Adaptation Of Rebecca F. Kuang’s Fantasy Books Including ‘The Poppy War’

Jan : Disney is moving ahead with the adaptation of Tomi Adeyemi’s ""Children of Blood and Bone"" that was picked up by the Mouse House last year.

Mark: For Takeshi Kovacs fans, a new original graphic novel coming Feb 2021. Altered Carbon: One Life, One Death by Richard K. Morgan

Mark: 25 Winter Reads Based On Your Favorite Star Trek Character

You can also revisit her two previous lists about SciFi Books and SciFi and Fantasy

Trike: pointed out the Best Reviewed Sci-Fi, Fantasy, and Horror of 2020

And Beth sent us a link to "A gift guide for the fans of science fiction, fantasy and horror books in your life" at the Washington Post.

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"Tassie Dave: Boxing Day isn't just a British holiday, it is also a holiday in many countries of the British Commonwealth (existing and former) i.e Australia, New Zealand, Canada, South Africa etc

It is arguably bigger than Xmas in Australia. Xmas Day is traditionally just for immediate family, but Boxing Day is our equivalent of Thanksgiving. It's when you get friends and extended family over for a family feast (which is usually a barbecue outside. Being Summer here after all)

It is also the biggest shopping day in Oz as well (our equivalent of the US' Black Friday. Which we also have) All major shops have their biggest sales to get rid of excess Xmas leftover merchandise.

It is also the start of 2 of Australia biggest sporting events. The Boxing Day Test (Cricket) and The Sydney to Hobart Yacht Race. "

AND from Phil: Boxing Day is a holiday in Canada as well. As Dave says, when I was growing up it was the day we traveled around town seeing the extended family we didn't see on Christmas and it's also a day of huge sales similar to Black Friday.

Finally from Ruth: Also, boxing day isn’t much of a holiday in the UK. Maybe it was different once, but now its really just the day after Christmas, and and an excuse for a sale, meaning anyone in any retail related role will likely be working.

When I was little, I used to think boxing matches took place on boxing day, and that was where the name came from.

TRIKE made us a 2020 Sword and Laser word search!!!

Tassie Dave: I don't think we got a definitive Yay or Nay. But are we doing Finding Baba Yaga: A Short Novel in Verse by Jane Yolen as an official alt pick?

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

Parable of the Sower (Parable 1) by Octavia E. Butler

Leesa: I thought it was an excellent choice. Very prescient. Full disclosure: I had started reading this book by chance before it was the December pick since I was done with Howl's very early on (which I also enjoyed). I consider Butler, and--in particular--this book as capital-I Important.

I finished this one super early, and am filling a few days full of quick reads, but starting this weekend I intend to start Talents. I wish I had started reading Butler much, much sooner. She's an exceptional writer.

John (Taloni) I really enjoyed the discussion of PotS. I just finished the book and found it a downer. Hearing Brea's enthusiasm made me reevaluate that. I always like it when people talk about why they love something. Was really interesting to hear why it was such an important book for her.

Paul: I was interested in Brea's take in the podcast, about the saving grace of PotS (although she didn't put it like that) being that is is about rebuilding - or, rather, building something better than what has been destroyed.

That got me thinking about other post-apocalyptic scifi that has the same kind of approach - The wonderful Station Eleven, Meg Elison's Road to Nowhere trilogy.

Any others?

Seth: The LA Times let me in once, so hopefully you haven't clicked on any of their other articles this month and can scroll through this. It's a really neat slide show about Octavia Butler and her relationship with the LA area libraries. There are images of some pages of her notebooks and other items from her papers that are now in the library's collection.

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S&L Podcast - #399 - Sneaky Alternate Pick?

Veronica is off on maternity leave but Brea Grant from the Reading Glasses podcast is here. yay! Brea gets to know pigeons, our legion of Richards and kicks off her pick for December, Parable of the Sower by Octavia E. Butler. We also need your help uncovering the mystery of Boxing Day.

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QUICK BURNS

Ernest Cline was on Coast-2-Coast late night radio last night talking about Ready Player One and Two.

The Guardian newspaper in the UK has a short list of its best sci fi and fantasy books of 2020.

Neil Gaiman's novella 'The Sleeper and the Spindle' radio adaptation coming to BBC Radio 4 on Boxing Day

Wizard of the Pigeons is finally out on Kindle in the US! Robin Hobb, writing as Megan Lindholm, tells the story of the Wizard.

Nalo Hopkinson has been named the 37th Damon Knight Grand Master by SFWA
The S&L wiki has a list of the Grand Masters we've read.

Once again the Sword and Laser folks are teaming up for donations to World Builders! Help us collectively reach the $1,000 goal to help fund education, opportunity, and sustainable self-sufficiency for families and communities worldwide.

BARE YOUR SWORD

Tamahome writes reagarding our confusion between The Stand and The Strand: "There's also comic book writer Jan Strnad who made New Tales of the Arabian Nights with Rich Corben. Too bad you didn't mention that name too to work into the title. I recall that comic being a good story. Maybe Veronica can name her baby "Tamahome"? Just kidding, mostly.We had a lot of people named

Richard submitting stories last episode so Richard Marpole tweeted to us "Greetings from the ever-growing legion of Richards! And my best wishes to @Veronica during her maternity. I hope everything goes well."

Pri on Twitter wrote "Well, now that I just became an American citizen, I am freaking out a lot less about the whole process so I can focus on my @swordandlaser book"

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

Parable of the Sower (Parable 1) by Octavia E. Butler

Tassie Dave our stats master’s fun statistical facts:

Parable of the Sower: A Graphic Novel Adaptation was published at the beginning of this year

Octavia's Parables doing episode for each chapter of the Parable of the Sower

The LA Public Library is holding a talk about Octavia Butler Thursday December 3

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