S&L Podcast - #498 - Weird Things With Burritos

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We wrap up our thoughts on A Night in the Lonesome October by Roger Zelazny. Tom lays down some very obscure hints about the next pick. And why we’re glad Andy Weir got fired.

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WHAT ARE WE NOMMING?

Tom: Panko-crusted chicken sandwich
Veronica: Nikka Coffey Grain Japanese Whisky

QUICK BURNS

  • Tamahome: Harlan Ellison's Last Dangerous Visions released - a collection of short fiction
    Rolling Stone Article

  • Mark: And I thought the series was ended! Richard Kadrey announces on Instagram that he is working on a new Sandman Slim novel, lucky #13!
    Instagram Post

  • CountZeroOr: Turns out Andy Weir has a cameo appearance in the new book from Jason Schreier about the history of Blizzard. (Spoiler: he got fired from Blizzard after complaining about not getting paid for overtime.)
    Twitter Post

  • Sandra: Highly recommend this PBS doc on YouTube about Judy-Lynn del Rey (yes, that Del Rey) who shaped science fiction. Several S&L-read authors make an appearance (like Lois McMaster Bujold).
    YouTube Video

BARE YOUR SWORD

Feedback from the audience

crochetchrisie: "I don’t remember which thread we were talking about DNF due to narrators, but OMG I may have found one I will DNF. Assistant to the Villain is very, very annoying to me in the first minute. I don’t even know how to explain it, but it’s like she’s doing a weird inflection at the end of every sentence. Whhhhhyyyyy??
It’s giving Shatner vibes. Looking at the Audible reviews, I am not alone in thinking the pacing is weird.
LOL OMG this book is weird. This is not what I was expecting. I may keep on.
Lol he’s too hot for her to be scared of.
“You just can’t kill people and be pretty… It’s confusing.”
Girl... You gonna die or get really satisfied. Maybe both, hopefully not in that order."

Liqorice: "I like my murderers like I like my coffee. Hot and, er, not scary?"
crochetchrisie📚: "LOL dark, bitter, and hot enough to scald me?"

crochetchrisie📚: "I am now inappropriately angry with my family for forcing me to do things and taking me away from my book. Get your own food and whatnot, family!"


BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

Tom Hints About Next Pick

WRAP UP

A Night in the Lonesome October by Roger Zelazny
Bookshop Link
Amazon Link

The various "Players" during the Game depicted in the book are archetypal characters from Victorian-era gothic fiction: Jack the Ripper (only ever referred to as "Jack"), Dracula ("The Count"), and the Wolf Man (known as "Larry Talbot," the film character’s name) all make appearances. In addition, there is a Witch ("Crazy Jill"), a Clergyman (Vicar Roberts), a Druid ("Owen"), Victor Frankenstein ("The Good Doctor"), Sherlock Holmes ("The Great Detective"), a "Mad Monk" ("Rastov" – apparently modeled after Rasputin), and grave robbers or Hermetic occultists ("Morris and McCab" – based either on real-life grave robbers Burke and Hare or a reference to a real hermetic of the time, MacGregor Mathers).
Wikipedia Article

eytanz: "So, I finished the book. Loved every minute of it. Obviously, I recognized some characters from elsewhere - Jack, the Count, the Good Doctor, the Great Detective, Larry Talbot. I assume the Vicar is a new character. So does anyone recognize the other players? Owen, Rastov, Morris and Maccab, Jill?"

ScottM: "Rastov’s appellation as the “mad monk” made me think of Rasputin. Owen seemed a generic druid. It’s mentioned Jill is a new player (stereotypical witch character), and I think Zelazny picked her name specifically so he could write the bit at the end."

JasonReads: "According to the book’s Wikipedia article, Morris and Maccab might be based on a pair of infamous murderers/grave robbers who killed a bunch of people in Scotland, then dug them up after burial to sell to some doctor who in turn used them for dissection."


Next Show

Next show will be November 13th because of Tom's travel schedule.


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S&L Podcast - #497 - Some Desperate Sniffles

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We learn a lot about nunchucks and old best SciFi lists, but we spend the majority of our time mulling over Some Desperate Glory by Emily Tesh. We also kick off a cozy October horrorish read.

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WHAT ARE WE NOMMING?

Tom: Chicken Alfredo lasagna
Veronica: Pumpkin spice crème cookies from Whole Foods

QUICK BURNS (Add Timestamp)

Any news or announcements.

A lot of people wanted us to talk about Marvel and DC losing joint trademark protection for the word superhero. I could not find a good explanation of what trademarks they held. Trademark law is so frequently misunderstood that until I do find that out, I can't intelligently comment on the withdrawal of that protection.
— Tom
https://www.law.com/therecorder/2024/09/30/joint-marvel-dc-trademark-of-super-hero-canceled-amid-challenge-by-creator-of-superbabies/?slreturn=20241002142830

Tamahome: Hot off the presses—Top 50 Sci-Fi novels voted on in 1998 at Locus. Words in Time on YouTube just did a video about it. I don’t think they’ve done a poll like this since? The Witches of Karres?
https://worldswithoutend.com/lists_locus_bestsf.asp

Seth: Mary Robinette Kowal, translator? She makes her debut as a translator with The Night Guest, a work of psychological horror by Hildur Knútsdóttir. A woman suffering from chronic fatigue gets a smartwatch, which finds she's been walking 40,000 steps in her sleep.
The book sounds neat, but mostly I'm just thinking there's basically nothing Kowal can't do.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/127306444.The_Night_Guest

Trike: October’s new Sci-Fi, Fantasy, and Horror releases are here to haunt your bookshelf.
https://gizmodo.com/octobers-new-sci-fi-fantasy-and-horror-releases-are-here-to-haunt-your-bookshelf-2000503585

Seth: Brandon Sanderson has plans to build a bookstore on the site of a closed city park. He’s calling it Dragonsteel Plaza.
https://www.sltrib.com/artsliving/2024/09/29/brandon-sanderson-has-bought-land/

BARE YOUR SWORD (Add Timestamp)

Feedback from the audience.

Ruth: I also remember the Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles! (Not surprisingly, as Ruth Tilltab and I are the same age, and we both grew up in the UK). There was a period when the UK was very against anything to do with ninjas or nunchucks. I remember Bruce Lee movies were edited to remove the nunchucks, and so was the Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles cartoon show. According to the Wikipedia article, the cartoon producers even changed Michelangelo’s signature weapon to a grappling hook because of the UK controversy over nunchucks.

Steve: While I agree the specificity of the UK rules is bizarre, one of the reasons why nunchucks were banned is that after the release of Enter the Dragon in 1973/4, there were several incidents of gang violence where the participants were found in possession of nunchucks. As a result, nunchucks and depictions of nunchucks were banned to avoid influencing "the youth." The main reasoning was that it is relatively simple to produce nunchucks, so the "barrier for entry" is very low, making it more likely that kids would be influenced to use them.

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

Kick Off
A Night in the Lonesome October by Roger Zelazny
Bookshop Link
Amazon Link

Wrap Up
Some Desperate Glory by Emily Tesh
Bookshop Link
Amazon Link

SDG: Dulce et Decorum Est
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/22925185-sdg-dulce-et-decorum-est

SDG: Queer Identity
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/22918852-sdg-queer-identity

S&L Podcast - #496 - Leminal Space

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Sad news followed by recommendations from Parade Magazine! And The Booker Short List. Plus, do you hate it when a series isn't continuing the story directly? And we check in on our September read of Some Desperate Glory by Emily Tesh.

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WHAT ARE WE NOMMING?
Tom: A cheeseburger from a movie theater
Veronica: Canadian House of Pizza and Garbage

QUICK BURNS - add time stamp
Any news or announcements

Seth and others:

  • Disney has officially announced the Graveyard Book adaptation is “paused.”

  • Netflix has announced Dead Boy Detectives, based on a comic series by Neil Gaiman, will not be getting a second season.

  • Good Omens Season 3 is also paused.

  • Five women have come forward with sexual assault allegations against Neil Gaiman, and there is a police investigation in New Zealand.

  • Gaiman denies the allegations.

Read more
More details
The Guardian article

Tamahome: The Booker shortlist is out. At least there's one with astronauts:

Orbital
Six astronauts rotate in the International Space Station. They are there to do vital work, but slowly they begin to wonder: what is life without Earth? What is Earth without humanity?
By Samantha Harvey
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Mark: Adrian Tchaikovsky has written the screenplay adapting a novella, The Inquest of Pilot Pirx, by Stanislaw Lem.

The English-language film tells the story of Commander Pirx, who leads a small crew of half androids and half humans on a rescue mission into space. None of them know which is which, and Pirx’s secret task is to figure out whether the androids are truly superior to humans. Events turn dangerous when the mission is disrupted by an unknown saboteur.

Is it time to read another book by Mr. Lem?
Read more

Seth: Parade Magazine (I didn't know they cared) delivers a list of the best SFF books of the year so far.
Read more

BARE YOUR SWORD
Feedback from the audience

tilltab — 09/16/2024 2:14 PM:
“I’m just catching up on the podcast, and listening to Wheel of Thyme, and although I know I’m in the wrong here, I still can’t help wincing at Veronica singing 'teenage mutant NINJA turtles,' because in the UK, they decided that 'ninja' wasn’t good for kids, and they were called 'teenage mutant HERO turtles,' and that included a change to the theme song. 'Hero turtles' is what I grew up with, and even though I KNOW 'ninja' is the accurate and correct word to use there, it still sounds so wrong to me! 'Heroes' just fits better! I can’t help thinking that!”

Loosely-Connected Series vs. Shared Universe

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION
Some Desperate Glory by Emily Tesh
Bookshop link
Amazon link

SDG: Brainwashed
Read more

SDG: Emily Tesh Interviews
Read more

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S&L Podcast - #495 - All The News That's Fit to Squee

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We have Dragon Awards and Hugo Awards, we kick off Some Desperate Glory, and wrap up our final thoughts on The Spear That Cuts Through Water. Also, we determine we might need to squee more.

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WHAT ARE WE NOMMING?
Tom: Truffle Mac and Cheese with broccoli
Veronica: Wit beer


QUICK BURNS

Chris K.
From Locus: 2023 Dragon Awards Winners

Best Science Fiction Novel
WINNER: Starter Villain, John Scalzi (Tor; Tor UK)

  • The Jinn-Bot of Shantiport, Samit Basu (Tordotcom)

  • The Saint of Bright Doors, Vajra Chandrasekera (Tordotcom)

  • Theft of Fire, Devon Eriksen (self-published)

  • These Burning Stars, Bethany Jacobs (Orbit US; Orbit UK)

  • Beyond the Ranges, John Ringo & James Aidee (Baen)

  • System Collapse, Martha Wells (Tordotcom)

Best Fantasy Novel (Including Paranormal)
WINNER: Iron Flame, Rebecca Yarros (Red Tower)

  • Three Kinds of Lucky, Kim Harrison (Ace)

  • The Water Outlaws, S.L. Huang (Tordotcom; Solaris UK)

  • He Who Drowned the World, Shelley Parker-Chan (Tor; Mantle)

  • My Brother’s Keeper, Tim Powers (Baen; Ad Astra)

  • House of Open Wounds, Adrian Tchaikovsky (Ad Astra)
    Source

Trike:
The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim, theaters December 13

  • AKA The War between Rohan and Dunland, taking place +/-180 years before the War of the Ring, the sealing of the legend of the Riders of Rohan, the ascension of the heroes of Gondor, the breaking of the old alliance, and the forging of a new path. In other words, a day that ends in Y in Middle-Earth.
    Watch trailer

Seth and JasonReads:
Universal International Studios Buys Matt Dinniman’s Dungeon Crawler Carl with Seth MacFarlane’s Fuzzy Door & Chris Yost Attached
Source

Paul:
George R.R. Martin hosted his very own Alfie Awards in Scotland on Friday to honor excellence in writing in 2023, specifically for people who were deleted from the 2023 Hugo Awards. Congratulations to:

  • RF Kuang for Best Novel (Babel)

  • Xiran Jay Zhao for New Writer

  • Sandman for Dramatic Presentation

  • Paul Weimer for Fan Writer

Kuang said she will cherish her hood-ornament-turned-award forever in a fun and slightly cheeky Instagram post.
See post

AFallenAngel and John:
Hugo 2024 Award Winners
(Also posted in Discord Quick Burns channel)

  • Best Novel: Some Desperate Glory by Emily Tesh (Tordotcom, Orbit UK)

  • Best Novella: Thornhedge by T. Kingfisher (Tor, Titan UK)

  • Best Novelette: “The Year Without Sunshine” by Naomi Kritzer (Uncanny Magazine, November-December 2023)

  • Best Short Story: “Better Living Through Algorithms” by Naomi Kritzer (Clarkesworld, May 2023)

  • Best Series: Imperial Radch by Ann Leckie (Orbit US, Orbit UK)

  • Best Graphic Story or Comic: Saga, Vol. 11 written by Brian K. Vaughan, art by Fiona Staples (Image Comics)

  • Best Related Work: A City on Mars by Kelly Weinersmith and Zach Weinersmith (Penguin Press; Particular Books)

  • Best Dramatic Presentation, Long Form: Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves

  • Best Dramatic Presentation, Short Form: The Last of Us: “Long, Long Time”

  • Best Game or Interactive Work: Baldur’s Gate 3

  • Best Editor Short Form: Neil Clarke

  • Best Editor Long Form: Ruoxi Chen

  • Best Professional Artist: Rovina Cai

  • Best Semiprozine: Strange Horizons

  • Best Fanzine: Nerds of a Feather, Flock Together

  • Best Fancast: Octothorpe

  • Best Fan Writer: Paul Weimer

  • Best Fan Artist: Laya Rose

  • Lodestar (Best YA Book): Moniquill Blackgoose

  • Astounding Award for Best New Writer: Xiran Jay Zhao
    Source


BARE YOUR SWORD
Feedback from the audience

  • Seth: "There’s the book we read last year, The Empress of Salt and Fortune. Maybe it’s more of a dual-timeline story, but there’s action in the present with Chih talking with the older Rabbit, and then the bulk of the story is Rabbit's history."

  • Oaken: "Heroes ON THE half-shelf makes me think of oysters on the half-shell. And while those are yummy, turtles that way would not be good."

  • Katie: "I LOVED A Spear Cuts Through Water, and it confirmed that stories within framing stories are one of my wheelhouses."


BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

Kick Off
Some Desperate Glory by Emily Tesh
Bookshop | Amazon

Wrap Up
The Spear Cuts Through Water by Simon Jimenez
Bookshop | Amazon
Goodreads Wrap Up Thread


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S&L Podcast - #494 - Wheel of Thyme

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This is not a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles podcast but it sure does end like one. But before it comes to that we boggle at all the awesome award winners, and talk about our good first impressions of The Spear That Cuts Through Water. Oh, and we have an idea for a cafe filled with Brandon Sanderson puns. Oh the puns!

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WHAT ARE WE NOMMING?
Tom: 19 Crimes Cabernet
Veronica: Ardbeg


QUICK BURNS

Jan: The winner of the Arthur C. Clarke Award for the best science fiction novel published in the UK has been named! It's In Ascension by Martin MacInnes. Read more here.

Jan: Winners for the 2024 Imadjinn Awards have been announced.
Best Science Fiction Novel: Prince Liberator by Fred Hughes
Best Fantasy Novel: Heart Master by Nikolas Everhart. Read more here.

TRP: As mentioned here back in January, The Book of Elsewhere by Keanu Reeves and China Miéville has been published.
It is based on Reeves' BRZRKR, Volume 1 comic books that feature an 80,000-year-old god who walks on Earth.
So, autobiography then.

Seth: It's official, Fourth Wing is the international TikTok book of the year. Read more here.

Ruth: Reactor Magazine is releasing preview chapters of Wind and Truth, the fifth book in the Stormlight Archives series, starting on Monday, 29th July (today as I’m writing this). The book will be published in December, but if you need your Brando Sando fix sooner, check out the preview here.

Oaken: The Booker longlist is out. View the list here.
The Booker is one of the more prestigious awards in literary fiction. It’s interesting how some of these novels dance with SF but never really commit to more than a two-step:
Orbital by Samantha Harvey takes place on the ISS. “Six astronauts observe Earth’s splendour while navigating bereavement, loneliness, and mission fatigue.” Ok, there are no lasers or FTL travel.
Enlightenment by Sarah Perry, a story of love and astronomy.
Playground by Richard Powers covers “… humanity’s next great adventure: a plan to send floating, autonomous cities out into the open sea.”

Paul: Bad news for Maas fans in Utah (and for access to literature in general) as 13 books have been banned from all public schools and public libraries in the state, including six of Sarah J. Maas' books:
From the article: "Twelve of the 13 titles were written by women. Six books by Maas, a fantasy author, appear on the list, along with Oryx and Crake by [Margaret] Atwood, milk and honey by Kaur, and Forever… by [Judy] Blume. Two books by Ellen Hopkins appear, as well as Elana K. Arnold’s What Girls Are Made Of and Craig Thompson’s Blankets." Read more here.

BARE YOUR SWORD
Add timestamp! Feedback from the audience

Stephen: I kind of had higher expectations for Cursed Bunny when I read that Bora Chung translates Russian classics into Korean. Some of the most famous short stories are from Russian authors. For example, The Nose by Nikolai Gogol is a short story about a bureaucrat's nose who leaves his face to have a better career in the new Russian bureaucracy. Sounds familiar?

Trike: I had high expectations because I previously read Chung’s other collection, Your Utopia, and liked it quite a lot. Those stories are all science fiction, whereas these are mostly fantasy. The ick factor was too high for my enjoyment, though.

Calvey: I thought it was interesting that niche bookstores are opening. In this day and age, for any physical bookstore to open surprises me. As I am not far from Steamy Lit in Deerfield Beach, I’m going to check it out. I will be curious if Romantasy makes the cut!
Props to a physical bookstore being opened. I’d like a Sci-Fi niche bookstore, please! Read more here.


BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

CHECK IN
The Spear Cuts Through Water by Simon Jimenez
Buy on Bookshop.org
Buy on Amazon

Bill:
What an interesting structure of a play within a dream. The chorus commenting throughout really sells that presentation.
Excited to tackle the next chapter.

Iain Bertram:
Yes, hearing from the witnesses and the victims adds to the depth of the world-building and the storytelling.


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S&L Podcast - #493 - Bunny Lamps and Bad Decisions

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Oh, Hugos. Also, the best Sci-Fi books of all time, and will AI kill the planet? We kick off our August book The Spear that Cuts Through Water, and wrap up our last thoughts on Cursed Bunny by Bora Chung.

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WHAT ARE WE NOMMING?

Tom: Shrimp Burrito
Veronica: Mac and Cheese bites

QUICK BURNS

John: The Glasgow 2024 Hugo Awards subcommittee has identified that someone has been trying to unfairly influence the vote and has issued a statement about the matter.
Jan: 377 votes have been disqualified for this year's Hugo Awards by the Glasgow WorldCon team. It seems there have been attempts to push for one specific finalist through memberships that were canceled and refunded after votes had been cast. The Glasgow team will not identify who this finalist is as there is no evidence they were involved in the scheme.
Source 1
Source 2

terpkristin: In other Hugos news, Glasgow 2024 has told Chengdu Worldcon co-chair Ben Yalow and Chengdu Worldcon Hugo Administrator Dave McCarty they will not be allowed to attend the convention. McCarty says he did not receive an explanation why; Yalow says he did not request one.
Source

Colin: Just in case anyone is using Goodreads on a Fire Tablet, Amazon has removed the Goodreads app from the Kindle Fire. That may make things like keeping up with the reading challenges a little more challenging.

Mark and Seth: Here's the shortlist for the LeGuin Prize for Fiction:

  • The Saint of Bright Doors by Vajra Chandrasekera (Tordotcom Publishing)

  • The Skin and Its Girl by Sarah Cypher (Ballantine Books)

  • It Lasts Forever and Then It’s Over by Anne de Marcken (New Directions)

  • Orbital by Samantha Harvey (Grove Press)

  • Sift by Alissa Hattman (The 3rd Thing)

  • The Library of Broken Worlds by Alaya Dawn Johnson (Scholastic Press)

  • Those Beyond the Wall by Micaiah Johnson (Del Rey)

  • The Siege of Burning Grass by Premee Mohamed (Solaris)

  • Some Desperate Glory by Emily Tesh (Tordotcom Publishing)

  • Mammoths at the Gates by Nghi Vo (Tordotcom Publishing)
    Source

Pilchie and Seth: The 100 greatest books of the century (so far, according to the NYTimes), and not much in the way of sci-fi or fantasy. I do like that they offer read-alikes for their picks, and I like that they used pictures of well-loved copies of the books. I noticed Station Eleven, Exit West, and The Fifth Season.
Source

Mark: Esquire has selected quite a few Sword & Laser picks for their 75 Best Sci-Fi Books of All Time.
Source

Spriggana: A graphic adaptation of A Wizard of Earthsea is coming on March 11, 2025. No examples of internal art are shown, but Fred Fordham already adapted three other novels: To Kill a Mockingbird, The Great Gatsby, and Brave New World. And while reading about this, I had a thought that if someone would adapt The Left Hand of Darkness, the snow scenes drawn by the right person could be stunning.
Source

Mark: Malka Older announced that Mossa and Pleiti (the main characters of S&L pick The Mimicking of Known Successes) will return for three more books! Follow-up: Malka Older's next Mossa and Pleiti novel is titled The Potency of Ungovernable Impulses.
Source

Tamahøme: The first two chapters from Peter F. Hamilton's game-related next space opera novel (~45 pages): Lots of tech and royalty politics.
Source


BARE YOUR SWORD

Sean Lookielook: Veronica Belbot will read all the books and mispronounce all the names. Seriously though, it seems like everyone's first reaction to anything AI these days is abject horror. I remember when the Star Trek TNG holodeck recreated famous people and we all thought it was amazing. Well, now we're one step closer and suddenly it's creepy? It'll be fine. Culture tends to preserve value. We still have TV despite the Internet, we still have radio despite TV, we still have live plays despite radio. The forms and uses change over time, but it can be argued that they would have changed anyway. That's just the nature of human beings to reinvent old ideas to fit changing circumstances. AI will find its place in the scheme of things, although there may be growing pains along the way. Granted, profiting off someone without their or their estate's permission is a heinous act of piracy. Still, it raises the question—when does a person become public domain?

Iain Bertram (iain_bertram): Like all of these large-scale AI projects, it is based on theft. The estates of the famous dead actors are paid while the audiobook narrators that have their work stolen to train the AI on how to read the books get nothing. The idea that it will be fine in the future ignores the quite real effects of the implementation of new technologies that can disadvantage large swathes of society for the benefit of the very few. It can take decades for these changes to start to benefit the masses. ALSO some people are worried about the environmental effects of datacenter usage.

AI seems destined to play a dual role. On the one hand, it can help reduce the effects of the climate crisis, such as in smart grid design, developing low-emission infrastructure, and modeling climate change predictions. On the other hand, AI is itself a significant emitter of carbon. This message reached the attention of a general audience in the latter half of 2019 when researchers at the University of Massachusetts Amherst analyzed various natural language processing (NLP) training models available online to estimate the energy cost in kilowatts required to train them. Converting this energy consumption in approximate carbon emissions and electricity costs, the authors estimated that the carbon footprint of training a single big language model is equal to around 300,000 kg of carbon dioxide emissions. This is of the order of 125 round-trip flights between New York and Beijing, a quantification that laypersons can visualize.
Source

Peter: Regarding reading Seanan McGuire or Mira Grant. I found Feed on the books almost chosen page on the wiki as it was in the 2017 March Madness tournament. She was also interviewed way back on episode 103.

Sean Lookielook: I don't mind series. What I don't like are books that claim to be part of a series, but have at best a passing relationship to the others—be that the story of a very minor character from another book or just being set in the same universe, for example. Sometimes, you want to see the perspective of a supporting character and read their story, but all too often this winds up being two entirely different books crammed together for marketing purposes. (Romantasy is the worst offender.) Similarly, I actively hate books that don't end properly because the story continues in the next book. That's not a cliffhanger; it's a cop-out. And it always feels like a cash grab. Make your damn book 800 pages if it needs to be 800 pages. If you don't think you can sell a book that long, you haven't met GRRM or Sarah Maas.


BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

KICK OFF

The Spear Cuts Through Water by Simon Jimenez
Bookshop
Amazon

WRAP UP

Cursed Bunny by Bora Chung
Biroso
Bookshop
Amazon

S&L Podcast - #492 - Smokey and the Narrator

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We debate whether we want dead celebrities to read our audiobooks. How long is too long for a series? And our non-spoilery takes on Cursed Bunny.

WHAT ARE WE NOMMING?
Tom: Chicken Tacos
Veronica: Sad Thai food

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QUICK BURNS

Elizabeth: Another Penric and Desdemona novella from Lois McMaster Bujold, this one called Penric and the Bandit. This is the 13th installment in this series of novellas (and one full-length novel). Goodreads

Calvey: Hollywood stars’ estates agree to the use of their voices with AI. CNN

Jan: The TikTok Book Awards Shortlist has been announced:

Nominees for Book of the Year (International) are:

  • Yellowface by R.F. Kuang

  • Fourth Wing by Rebecca Yarros

  • Sword Catcher by Cassandra Clare

  • Chain Gang All Stars by Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah

TikTok

Mer: US Library of Congress's National Book Festival seems to be getting better each year at inviting SciFi and Fantasy authors to speak. This year:

  • Ernest Cline

  • James S. A. Corey

  • Rebecca Yarros

  • Tomi Adeyemi

  • Lincoln Child

  • and a lot of others

Held in the nation’s capital at the Walter E. Washington Convention Center on Saturday, August 24, from 9 a.m. to 8 p.m. Library of Congress

Mark and Trike: Frakes will direct Venus Prime adaptation. I read the Venus Prime series by Paul Preuss when they were published in the late 1980s. They are based on stories by Arthur C. Clarke and as I recall, I found them entertaining science fictional mysteries, but I can't recall any details. Variety

Travis: Hey everyone! A couple of my favorite people are putting a new fantasy book out! Achewillow is a wonderful story podcast written by JF Dubeau and produced by Amy Frost. Well, they are putting Season 1 out in print form. Check out the launch trailer here. YouTube

Mark: Romance Bookstores Are Booming, Dishing ‘All the Hot Stuff You Can Imagine’. Bookstores once shunted romance novels to a shelf in the back. But with romance writers dominating the best-seller lists, a network of dedicated bookstores has sprung up around the country. NY Times

Jasonb: Book of Elsewhere by Keanu Reeves and China Miéville website and book info. The Book of Elsewhere


BARE YOUR SWORD

Stephen: I too was a bit worried about Cursed Bunny but I read Bora Chung's bio and became interested again. Ms. Chung has a degree in Russian and Eastern European Studies and translates Russian literature into Korean. The first story in the collection is, I think, a homage to Nikolai Gogol's The Nose, a short story about a nose leaving a man's face and having a better career than the man whose face it left.

crochetchrisie📚: I suggested a book for the June pick and it was pointed out that it is book 1 in an ongoing 18-book series. So that got me wondering what people think about starting a series with so many books? (And I don't think you can pick and choose in this one; like many urban fantasy series, they build on the previous.) I love this author and am caught up on her other longer series (InCryptid and Wayward Children), but I was saving this one because I knew I'd love it. Sorry if this sounds like a campaign for them to choose my book (I will read it someday regardless) but I was curious how people felt about it. So two questions:

  • Long series - good or bad?

  • What's the longest series you've read all of the books in?
    Goodreads

Buzz: The Cursed Bunny audiobook is also included on Spotify Premium for those who may have it :-) I just recently discovered that audiobooks were available on Spotify Premium. I had no idea until three days ago. Spotify


BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

Cursed Bunny by Bora Chung:
Biroso
Bookshop
Amazon

CB: What are we nomming while reading about poop creatures? Goodreads


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S&L Podcast - #491 - Next Month, Trauma!

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It's awards season and we cover them all, including a Martha Wells sweep! We wrap up our thoughts on Sword of Kaigen and get excited (read: trigger warnings) for Cursed Bunny, our July pick.

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WHAT ARE WE NOMMING?
Tom: Garlic and Herb Salmon
Veronica: Lobster Mashed Potatoes


QUICK BURNS

Seth: The Nebula Awards are announced:

  • Nebula Award for Novel: The Saint of Bright Doors by Vajra Chandrasekera (Tordotcom)

  • The Andre Norton Nebula Award for Middle Grade and Young Adult Fiction: To Shape a Dragon’s Breath by Moniquill Blackgoose (Del Rey)

  • Nebula Award for Novella: Linghun by Ai Jiang (Dark Matter Ink)

  • Nebula Award for Novelette: The Year Without Sunshine by Naomi Kritzer (Uncanny 11-12/23)

  • Nebula Award for Short Story: Tantie Merle and the Farmhand 4200 by R.S.A. Garcia (Uncanny 7-8/23)
    Source

Jan: I don't know if it's of interest, but the Indie Book Awards for 2024 have been announced. The winner in the Fiction category is genre author (and... uhm... Hugos excludee) R.F. Kuang for her non-genre novel Yellowface.
Source

Chris K. and Jason: Locus Award Winners

Science Fiction Novel:

  • WINNER: System Collapse by Martha Wells (Tordotcom)

  • The Jinn-Bot of Shantiport by Samit Basu (Tordotcom)

  • A Fire Born of Exile by Aliette de Bodard (Gollancz; JAB Books)

  • Red Team Blues by Cory Doctorow (Tor; Ad Astra)

  • Furious Heaven by Kate Elliott (Ad Astra; Tor)

  • Translation State by Ann Leckie (Orbit US; Orbit UK)

  • The Terraformers by Annalee Newitz (Tor; Orbit UK)

  • Starter Villain by John Scalzi (Tor; Tor UK)

  • Lords of Uncreation by Adrian Tchaikovsky (Orbit US; Tor UK)

  • The Road to Roswell by Connie Willis (Del Rey)

Fantasy Novel:

  • WINNER: Witch King by Martha Wells (Tordotcom)

  • To Shape a Dragon’s Breath by Moniquill Blackgoose (Del Rey)

  • The Keeper’s Six by Kate Elliott (Tordotcom)

  • Emily Wilde’s Encyclopaedia of Faeries by Heather Fawcett (Del Rey; Orbit UK)

  • Dead Country by Max Gladstone (Tordotcom)

  • The Water Outlaws by S.L. Huang (Tordotcom; Solaris UK)

  • Paladin’s Faith by T. Kingfisher (Argyll)

  • He Who Drowned the World by Shelley Parker-Chan (Tor; Mantle)

  • My Brother’s Keeper by Tim Powers (Baen; Ad Astra)

  • City of Last Chances by Adrian Tchaikovsky (Ad Astra)

Jan: From Locus Mag: The Chinese Science Fiction Planet Awards for 2024 have been announced. Winner in the Best Novel Category is Once Upon a Time in Nanjing by Tianrui Shuofu
Source

Jan: From Locus Mag: The 36th Annual Lambda Literary Awards (the “Lammys”), celebrating “the best lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender books,” have been announced. Winner in the LGBTQ+ Speculative Fiction category is I Keep My Exoskeletons to Myself by Marisa Crane
Source

CrochetChristie and Trike: More details about the film adaptation of Project Hail Mary:

  • The screenplay was adapted by Drew Goddard, who also adapted The Martian.

  • It stars Ryan Gosling and Milana Vayntrub.

  • It’s being directed (and one assumes they had writing input) by Phil Lord and Chris Miller, who’ve made The Lego Movie, both Jump Street flicks, and both Spider-verse films, among others.

  • Shooting has started. Source Source

CountZeroOr: Seiun Award winners are in:

Winners of note:

  • Best Japanese Long Story: Fumio Takano's Graf Zeppelin Ano Natsu no Hikōsen (Graf Zeppelin That Summer's Airship)

  • Best Japanese Short Story: Mikihiko Hisanaga's Watashitachi no Kaijū (Kaiju Within)

  • Best Translated Long Story: John Scalzi's The Kaiju Preservation Society (translated by Masayuki Uchida)

  • Best Translated Short Story: Greg Egan's Solidity (translated by Makoto Yamagishi)

  • Best Comic: Delicious In Dungeon (Animated adaptation currently streaming on Netflix)

  • Best Visual Media: Godzilla Minus One (Also currently streaming on Netflix)

  • Best Artist: Kia Asamiya (Silent Mobius, Steam Detectives)

  • Best Non-Fiction: Tokyo Sōgensha Editorial Team's Sōgen SF Bunko Sōkaisetsu (Sōgen SF Bunko Imprint: A General Commentary)

  • Best Related Work: Giant Robots: The Core of Japanese Mecha Anime exhibit
    Source


    Clyde:     John Scalzi has won another Seiun Award. Seems the Japanese like his writing.
    Source

Seth: Barnes and Noble have released their best of 2024 (so far), in some pretty interesting categorical groupings. The most SFF is included in the category: The Cutting Edge: Eight Spredges We're Obsessed With - with spredge apparently being a portmanteau of 'sprayed-edge.' It includes:

  • Heavenbreaker by Sara Wolf

  • The Night Ends with Fire by K. X. Song

  • A Fate Inked in Blood by Danielle Jensen

  • Five Broken Blades by Mai Corland

  • Gothikana by RuNyx
    Source

Joanna: New Hunger Games novel, Sunrise on the Reaping, announced for March 18th, 2025. It will tell the story of the Second Quarter Quell, which means Haymitch's victory. Also, a movie is already in the works (early stages).
Source

Tamhome: The Ye Wengie actress Rosalind Chao from the Three Body Problem Netflix Show (also Keiko from Deep Space 9) did a Three Body Problem audiobook. Wow, Klinger proposed to her in MASH*.
Source

Spriggana: Piranesi animated adaptation?
Source

TRP: The latest edition of the Backlisted podcast (co-hosted by John Mitchinson, publisher of Unbound) features The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: The Original Radio Scripts by Douglas Adams. This is the Douglas Adams book that I want Sword and Laser to read. It contains material not in any other version of the Hitch-Hiker's story and fascinating annotations about the production of the series.
Source

CrochetChristie: Get it girl. V.E. Schwab has a new book coming out next year. Big $ book deal.
Source

Mantissa: Robin Sloan, the author of Sourdough and Mr. Penumbra’s 24-Hour Bookstore, has a new book Moonbound coming out on June 10th, 2024.
Source


BARE YOUR SWORD

terpkristin:

You might say it’s a Maas Effect? 😜 I’m fully on that train, currently in ACOTAR #3.

terpkristin: On the topic of local indie bookstores, yay! I definitely recommend checking them out. Many have stuff other than books like cards (birthday, thank you, etc.), puzzles, and book-adjacent things. My favorite store also has stickers and chocolate creations from a local candy maker. If you don't want to buy a physical book, maybe those other things would appeal. My local stores also work with Kobo for ebooks and Libro.fm for audiobooks. When I buy books on those, my local store gets credit.

Boox Palma
Source

Ruth: What I always do when I go to an independent bookshop is buy a bookmark (I did this today in fact). I don’t read as many physical books these days as I would like, but I’m always happy to acquire a pretty new bookmark. I have quite a collection of them so I can choose one that fits the aesthetic of my latest read.

Geoff: My local independent bookstore has a cafe attached, so I try to frequent that. I also try to buy one physical book per month, even though I prefer reading on Kindle. I find I end up buying a lot of novellas so I can minimize the actual amount of small font reading I have to do. :-)

I'm fortunate enough to have enough money that this won't break the bank, and I like having the bookstore in town!

Tamahome: Bookstores should have a system where you buy a drink, and then you can read ebooks on an app in the store wifi. They can track what gets read and those authors get some money.

John (Taloni): Regarding Scalzi's latest, a good example of the fixup novel/sequential story is our recent read China Mountain Zhang. Related stories tell a full novel's worth of material, different characters and events in each story/chapter.


BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

ANNOUNCEMENT
Cursed Bunny by Bora Chung
Biroso | Bookshop | Amazon

WRAP UP
The Sword of Kaigen: A Theonite War Story by M. L. Wang.
Source

Discussion Links:


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S&L Podcast - #490 - Cosy Adjacent

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Are we living in a Maas society? Veronica has recommendations in joining on the Sarah J. Maas train. Independent bookstores are on the rise. We kick off The Sword of Kaigen and give our spoilery thoughts on Emily Wilde's Encyclopaedia of Faeries by Heather Fawcett.

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WHAT ARE WE NOMMING?

Tom: Chicken Wings and Mushroom Alfredo Gnocchi
Veronica: Matcha


QUICK BURNS

Seth: NPR book critics reveal what they're looking forward to this summer, and there's a lot of speculative stuff in there, like.

Chris K: Via Locus: 2023 Aurealis Award Winners (best in Australian speculative fiction)

Mark: 200 new independent bookstores in 2023 and 190 more opening in the next two years. Who's doing all this readingMark: From

Joe Abercrombie "It’s now less than a year until the release of The Devils, and I am delighted to reveal its cover(s). In the US:"

Mark: John Scalzi has finished a new book called "When the Moon Hits Your Eye"


BARE YOUR SWORD

Trike: Great Danes are among several regional breeds known as boarhounds. Apparently they were *a* boarhound, not *the* boarhound. I didn’t find an explanation of why Great Danes become the most popular version of the boarhounds.

Photos of Great Danes from the 1800s show them as ancestors to the modern dogs, but not yet in the form we know them today. Which makes sense. Most breeds back in the day had a lot of regional variation, and modern styles hadn’t yet taken over entire lines.

John (Taloni) On the subject of real-world places that sound like they're made up (like Ljosland) it made me flash on Dark Side of the Moon: "...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad."

Seré:
Thanks for Book Briefing. This will serve as a palette cleanser to the Sarah J Maas tunnel I'm currently excavating (i.e I took a look to investigate the fuss and well, I fell in).Veronica notes that Terpkristin is ALSO now reading ACOTAR so I guess I've set us on this path lol


BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

KICK OFF
The Sword of Kaigen: A Theonite War Story" by M. L. Wang.

WRAP UP
Emily Wilde's Encyclopaedia of Faeries by Heather Fawcett
Amazon Link
Go forth? How about first?

John Taloni
Tying our last two picks together, (definitely a spoiler) what is it with the sudden proposals of marriage? Altho in this case Wendell is more clear as to the reason for his attraction. Emily is smart, more knowledgable about Fae than the Fae themselves, fearless, strategic, and would make a great queen as well as companion on his quest to get back to his throne. I'm afraid, tho, that at the point of the proposal it is really all about his needs. He doesn't show a full understanding of Emily yet.


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S&L Podcast - #489 - Emily Wilde's Encyclopaedia of Veronicas

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We have Locus Award and Arthur C. Clarke award nominees. We share our non-spoilery thoughts on Emily Wilde's Encyclopaedia of Faeries by Heather Fawcett. And Tom discovers Birria Ramen!

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WHAT ARE WE NOMMING?

Tom: Del Taco Birria Ramen
Veronica: Nacho pretzels


QUICK BURNS

Chris K - Via Locus: 2024 Locus Awards Top Ten Finalists

Jan: Variety reports that Warner Bros. Is set to Release a new ‘Lord of the Rings’ Movie called ‘The Hunt for Gollum’ in 2026, with Peter Jackson to Produce and Andy Serkis to Direct

crochetchrisie📚

Short list for Arthur c Clarke award 2024 - given to the best science fiction novel first published in the U.K. of the following year, has been announced.

winner will be announced on July 24, 2024

BARE YOUR SWORD

Trike: What happens in my house when Tom rings a bell during the podcast signifying someone covered a square in S&L Bingo:

This also counts as “Trike posts another photo of his dogs”. :p"


Veronica wrote: "omg the picture in the background, I need a close up!"

Trike: We call it “Monkey Pug”. One of Mrs. Trike’s very first purchases from the then-new eBay.

It’s a real litmus test for visitors, because it is framed beautifully by my friend Steve (the frame cost more than the painting) and it occupies a prominent wall space by itself, so we talk about it like it’s the Mona Lisa just to see how they react. No one is sure whether we’re serious or not.

It’s a chimp dressed like a queen holding a pug in a onesie. Of course this is serious art!

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

Emily Wilde's Encyclopaedia of Faeries by Heather Fawcett

Amazon Link

The Problem with Pastiche

tilltab: An Intrusion (spoilers for up to 29th October):

Lauren

Emily references a number of stories from other lands in her footnotes. I have a sense that these are real stories from other cultures that exist in our world. Do you recognize them?

I am currently studying Manx Gaelic and we are reading a book of Manx Fairy Tales. I remember that Emily mentions a story from the Isle of Man in a footnote somewhere. I am listening to the audiobook and can't easily find it - does anyone have the ebook and can easily search for it and remind me of the story she references from the Manx?

I would like to see if I can find it in this book I'm reading. I'll post the story here if it exists.

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S&L Podcast - #488 - Barrayar Your Sword

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Some great books in the Seiun Awards in Japan, why Sword and Laser is good for your heart, we kick off the May pick, and finally wrap up our thoughts on the surprising complexity and depth of the awesome Cordelia's Honor.

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WHAT ARE WE NOMMING?

Tom: Chicken Tacos
Veronica: Mac and Cheese Burger

QUICK BURNS

"Chris K. Yanekon, the 62nd Japan Science Fiction Convention, has announced the finalists for the 2024 Seiun Awards (the Japanese equivalent of the Hugo Awards), honoring the best original and translated works published last year in Japan.

Stephen: The winner of SPFBO 9 ( Self-Publishing Fantasy Blog Off or Spiff-Bo) is: Murder at Spindle Manor by Morgan Stang. It was a close contest

John (Taloni) - Gail Carriger has decided to enlighten us on just what Cozy means.

Iain: Lady Astronaut news. The Martian Contingency is available for pre orders. Have to wait till next March. Boo"

Tamahome: The Witcher is ending with season 5 on Netflix

crochetchrisie📚 —Seanan McGuire will publish more Toby daye and incryptid books at tor.


BARE YOUR SWORD

terpkristin: Thank you guys for helping make my cardio workout less tedious. I mostly listen to podcasts while making short drives around town and at the gym. Longer walks and drives (and flights) are usually for audiobooks. This last 2 weeks I've made execptions to that but generally that's my bookishness. I also read with my eyes often while eating lunch and before bed. Finally back into Cordelia's Honor and still enjoying it, even if there are difficult scenes and if I didn't vote for it. ;)

"Misti - I'm all in for Emily Wilde for next month's pick. I don't mind if the runner-up book (or even a book further down in the voting order) gets picked, especially if it's something I think I'd like to read anyway. One of my favorite things about March Madness is getting introduced to books I haven't heard about and adding them to my TBR list.


What would be on a Sword and Laser Bingo card?


BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

Brief Kick Off

Emily Wilde's Encyclopaedia of Faeries by Heather Fawcett

Amazon Link

WRAP UP (Spoilery)

Cordelia's Honor by Lois McMaster Bujold

Shards of Honor

Barrayar

Parental Anxieties

BethMitcham

It’s a great way to examine attitudes towards childbearing/parenting, what are the hidden costs and who we expect to bear them. Although this aspect of things gets more attention in Ethan of Athos.
Barrayar is more about how parenting changes us, the vulnerability of having children."

Sean

Literally just finished.
I'll admit that I like Barrayar more than Shards. I feel like it has a more coherent plot-line, and Cordelia is less on the periphery of events, which is the general vibe I got in Shards.
I also really liked the epilogue, even if I could see where it was going almost immediately. Part of me honestly thinks I should go on with the series."

John Nevets
Just Finished listening to the two books back to back. Most of that was done in driving back and forth from where I went for the eclipse. I liked them both. I have read 3 ( I think) of Miles'es books, and liked those as well. Cordelia was only briefly in those. But it was interesting seeing how much of her is also in Miles character and personality. Always looking for a creative solution to things, and yet curious as a cat. And willing to lead from the front if necessary.

I also found that these books reminded me more of the contemporary space opera, political/ military sci-fi books that are out there Like C. J. Cherryh's Foreigner series, or David Weber's Honor Harrington series, and so where I'm guessing even some of Jack Campbell took some inspiration for his Lost Fleet series. I guess all of these have probably drawn at least some inspiration from the old Patrick O'Brian British Navy books, and the Horatio Hornblower books."

Been
I just finished this last night and thoroughly enjoyed it and how it continues from the first book to portray disability as something to accept and adapt to rather than pity or just hide away. I especially liked that they didn't just ignore it either, and had some strong opposing views which were pushed back on rather token thoughts which were quickly dismissed.

I don't know what experience the author has with disability, but I continue to be surprised at how well this series handles things consider it was started in the 80s.

I've seen that most of the series (aside from the very next book) are also free on audible, so I'll be continuing to read the series for a little while at least. Keen to see where Miles story goes after this."


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S&L Podcast - #487 - Have We Reached Critical Maas?

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OMG all of the top bestsellers are romantasy! What order should you read series in? Does it matter? Also why is Veronica telling Tom to suck it? Or did we misunderstand. Tune in and find out!

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WHAT ARE WE NOMMING?

Tom: Cheesy Stuffed Pasta Shells
Veronica: Bahn mi


QUICK BURNS

Jan: Business Insider has an article on the success of the Romantasy Genre called "Sarah J. Maas is the bestselling author of 2024 so far — and other romance and fantasy authors are right behind her"

Jan: From LocusMag: The Romantic Novelists’ Association (RNA) has announced shortlists for the 2024 Romantic Novel Awards, including the Romantic Fantasy Novel Awards (not Romantasy Awards ;-) ):

Jan: Forbes has released their list of the 30 greatest book series of all time

Jan: Nautilus has an interesting article asking N.K. Jemisin, Andy Weir, Lois McMaster Bujold, David Brin, Cory Doctorow and Charles Stross whether Science Fiction is shaping our Future or not (or how much and where).

Richard: Small Press Distribution Shuts Down

Trike: Dark Matter, Apple TV, May 8.

BARE YOUR SWORD

Stephen: Alas, I am a Dodger Fan. Although I am a true fan of all things baseball. But enough about baseball. A couple of years ago I did a Summer of Bujold, but only did the Fantasy side of her books, but not the Science Fiction mostly because of the book order debate. I am a big fan of her current novella series Penric & Desdemona.

Trike: Currently listening to Paper & Blood by Kevin Hearne, which takes place in the same world as the Iron Druid series, but features a wizard who’s from Glasgow. Narrated by (American) Luke Daniels who is doing yet another spectacular job switching between numerous accents.

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

Hint about May pick
April Book Pick (Tournament Winner)

Cordelia's Honor by Lois McMaster Bujold
Shards of Honor
Amazon version
Barrayar

what’s on the menu?
I didn't vote for him....


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S&L Podcast - #486 - Pre-re-read

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Will Veronica and Tom make it to Glasgow? Not after that embarrassing German pronunciation. And after talking some baseball, they dig into non-spoilery discussion of Cordelia's Honor.

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WHAT ARE WE NOMMING?

Tom: Amboy Crispy Burger

Veronica: Leftover Easter candy

QUICK BURNS

Julie: 2024 Hugo Awards Finalists announced.

Mark added in Discord:

And this year's Sword & Laser Awards Bump™® goes to The Mimicking of Known Successes by Malka Older

Jan: The German SERAPH awards 2024 have been announced.

CountZeroOr posted some excellent details and recommendations in the Discord related to two genre fiction words being added to the OED.

Mark: The 2024 Philip K. Dick Award Winner Announced

BARE YOUR SWORD

"Stephen: I paused Iron Widow mostly because I had another book come in, Empire of the Damned which I really wanted to read right away, and the angst of the main character kind of ground on me, but I hope to get back to it, not on the high priority list, however. (Baseball season started and I am taking Thai Language classes, so this year might have a few DNF books)

As for the March Madness winner, I got the 2 books from the Audible Plus feature, so no Audible credit burned on this Book of the Month

Dave: Timing for watching baseball in SE Asia must be a bit interesting

Stephen: Yeah, night games are on at 6 am for the East Coast teams and 9 am for the West Coast Game. Only problem is day games which generally means Saturday and Sunday Late Nights. "

@petergarner@mastodon.world

@acedtect @swordandlaser Well, I’ve got Neuromancer on hold at the library, so I plan to reread it again after (gulp) 40 years (WTF?) You should too! Hoping it holds up better than the Foundation Trilogy! 😬

Are you two kids coming to Worldcon in Glasgow this year? I'm thinking of heading up to it (I live about an hour from Glasgow) and I would love to meet both of you if you're able 🥰 If not, then another time and another day it shall be lol 😋🥰👍👊

Mike Sedmak on Patreon

If there are any other blind or reading disabled members, you can find the combined book on NLS BARD titled as "Vorkosigan saga. Books 2-3”

Seré on Patreon

Wow, I never realized these book briefings existed. I cannot believe how useful this is. So first, my apologies for being ignorant of the very good work you are doing and thank you so much. I really am just perpetually seréndipitously rediscovering Sword & Laser. It's been a great ride."

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

April Book Pick (Tournament Winner)

Cordelia's Honor by Lois McMaster Bujold

Shards of Honor

-- Amazon

Barrayar

ADDENDUMS

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S&L Podcast - #485 - Triangles Are Stronger

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The Nebula Award nominees are out! Should we re-read Neuromancer? Veronica explains Type I, II, and III fun. The truth behind Cordelia's Honor. And our final thoughts on Iron Widow.

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WHAT ARE WE NOMMING?

Tom: Homemade guacamole
Veronica: Cadbury creme eggs

QUICK BURNS

Geoff: The Nebula Award finalist list is up!

Jan: As deadline reports: Michael Ende's ‘The Neverending Story’ is to be adapted again as a series of live-action movies.

Vernor Vinge, a titan in the S&F literary genre and a multiple Hugo winner, has passed away.

Roberator: Butterfly in the Sky Trailer Celebrates Reading Rainbow’s Legacy

Liqorice: For the low, low price of $1,550 you can name a character in the next Scalzi book (Edit: finished with a winning bid of $4,050.)

Oaken: Tanith Lee was named the winner of the 2024 SFWA Infinity Award. This honour is awarded posthumously to writers who passed away before they could be considered for the Damon Knight Memorial Grand Master Award. Last year's winner was Octavia E. Butler. S&L has read books from both authors in past years.

Oaken: Libraries struggle with the rising cost of e-books. The move with e-books to a model where libraries pay a higher price and/or have to deal with a cap on checkouts for each purchase is causing funding issues. Parties on both sides have a legitimate concern: publishers and authors want to be paid while government agencies want to maximize access to materials for their constituents.

BARE YOUR SWORD

Calvey: Speaking of Neuromancer, is anyone up for an alt read together? I'd love to reread it and I suspect we have some time for the TV show. It would be fun to get this group take on it.

Tamahome: William Gibson's narration of Neuromancer is on archive.org. His intentions might come through a little better through his voice

Charles: Believe that the Bloodsworn Saga (the trilogy that The Shadow of the Gods is part of) is just one long story split into 3 parts. Book 2 ends in a cliff hanger too. Wait until book 3 is out before starting them.

Veronica's Type of Fun (Books edition)

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

April Book Pick (Tournament Winner)

Cordelia's Honor by Lois McMaster Bujold

Shards of Honor

-- Amazon

Barrayar

MARCH WRAP UP (Spoilery)

Iron Widow by Xiran Jay Zhao

Amazon Link

How I Thought It Would Go

Audiobook Narrator

Her Spirit Pressure, IT'S OVER 18000!!!

ADDENDUMS

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S&L Podcast - #484 - It's Giving "Mad"

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We check in on who's winning the tournament. A vikings kids book! Where it's stabbing time! We talk a little bit about Iron Widow, and wrap up Shadow of the Gods.

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WHAT ARE WE NOMMING?

Tom: Tortellini with Pork Ragu
Veronica: Doritos


QUICK BURNS

March Madness Check in

Tamahome: Neuromancer coming to Apple TV

Oaken: BSFA announces shortlist of nominees for their 2024 awards

Mark: Announcing the finalists for the first annual Libby Book Awards, aka The Libbys

Seth: Felicia Day wins! Third Eye is the best audio-drama of the year according to the Audie Awards. Obviously this is really a win for the hype from her Sword and Laser appearance.

John (Taloni) For fans of the Spiderwick Chronicles: Disney+ has sold the completed first season to Roku, so it won't be permanently shelved like Batgirl or Coyote v Acme. H/T: Loscon

Jan: Rick Riordin has confirmed that Netflix has let their option for his Kane Chronicles series of novels lapse

Jan: Adrian Tchaikowsky will also no longer cite his 2023 Hugo win for Children of Time as best series due to a huge number of Chinese entries being disallowed and removed so that he considers the shortlist vor voting entirely unreliable and therefore he cannot consider himself to be a Hugo winner.

Mark: David Dastmalchian Joins Alexander Skarsgård In Apple Sci-Fi Series ‘Murderbot’ Will play Gurathin

Mantissa: There is an interesting interview with Martha Wells at Locus Magazine.

Mark: R.F. Kuang’s Babel Optioned for On-Screen Adaptation

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John (Taloni)

And if we're doing Alien kid's books, why not Viking animated cartoons? I'm thinking like Dora the Viking. But instead of calling out The Map, it's The Seax! (going with the secondary pronunciation ""sax"" instead of what we all thought the first time, say-ax or see-ax.)

When adventure's on the go,
And it's stabbing time you know,
What'll it be? The seax! Say it again. The seax!
When there's places you should be
And it's killing time, you'll see
What'll it be? The seax! Say it again. The seax!
I'm the seax, I'm the seax
(He's the seax, he's the seax)
I'm the SEAX!

terpkristin: This episode got me through most of my workout today. Thanks for that!! :) And then I wanted hot chocolate and Girl Scout cookies but instead I had Szechuan crispy beef.

On the Hugo stuff, I was one of the ones expecting controversy with it being in China, but what I found most egregious in the leaked emails was the Western committee members deciding that books should be withheld--without reading the book. For someone to say "this shouldn't be in" without reading a book is RIDICULOUS.

The February BOTM isn't working for me. I've put it on the backburner. I know that my usual doorways are plot and characters and I just don't even want to read it. Maybe one day I'll get back to it

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

MARCH PICK
Iron Widow by Xiran Jay Zhao
Amazon Link

Final Thoughts (Spoilery)
Shadow of the Gods by John Gwynne
Amazon Link

LaszloJamf: Thoughts uncaged
First the good:
The Norse setting was cool with lashings of authentic detail.
The fights were gripping and Orka was an outstanding seax wielder.
The vaesen were creepy and I’m glad they reappeared at the end.
The bad:
Multiple view points slow this book down. I felt the two war bands were really similar and the Elvars blood grim did not really add anything.
The descriptions got kind of samey and we often just had lists of what weapons people were carrying.
3/5 but I’m gonna read the next book as vaesen are supposed to have greater part"

Decado:
Regardless of my gripes, I still enjoyed the book overall. I didn't think it felt slow like a lot of people did. I think Varg's chapters were my favorite, followed by Elvar, though I'm very interested to see where Orka's story goes now. All in all I would give it a 4/5 and I will definitely be continuing the trilogy."

Gristle McNerd
Oh come on, ending on a cliffhanger? I just finished
I do want to know what happens, but I'm not sure I want it enough to expose myself to more awkward prose about viking stuff"

The Hunger of the Gods


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S&L Podcast - #483 - C is for Chestburster

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A few more thoughts on the Hugos, who would win in a fight between Maas and Yarros, and we preview our March Madness brackets!

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WHAT ARE WE NOMMING?

Tom: Mexican Caesar Salad
Veronica: Hot chocolate

QUICK BURNS

March Madness Brackets!

Let's run through the matchups. We can even give which ones are predicted to win based on reader votes on challonge

Seth: Susan Cooper, author of spooky fantasy kids books is the SFWA's newest Grand Master.

Seth and JasonReads: Ryan Reynold's production company is working on an adaptation of Scalzi's latest.

Seth: Apparently, The Martian is already 10 years old— Andy Weir wrote a bit more about Mark Watney's journey around the dust storm and released them as "The Lost Sols."

terpkristin: There’s some great journalism out about the 2023 Hugo Awards and the censorship involved. It’s pretty damning. Scalzi has thoughts on it too."

Decado and Jan: There is a press release on business wire titled "iwot and D1srupt1ve Join Forces as True Source to Unleash AI Magic on “The Wheel of Time”®" and I need Tom to decipher the press release! Help!

Tom's interpretation: "A company that uses number ones instead of the letter I is creating a chat bot trained on the Wheel of Time series. Coming to the Web, Android and iOS. It will have a freemium model. "

jasonb: ‘Alien’ Will Be Adapted for Children’s Book

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Tamahome: If Rebecca Yarros and Sarah J. Maas had a fight, who would win?

Jan: I had to live for two weeks on protein shakes without anything else before a stomach operation to reduce the size of my liver so there was more room for the surgeon and while protein shakes are not as bad anymore it soured those shakes for me 😉

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

MARCH PICK

Iron Widow by Xiran Jay Zhao
Amazon Link

CHECK IN

Shadow of the Gods by John Gwynne
Amazon Link

LaszloJamf
Drink every time …
Stew is consumed
There is a spray of arterial blood
Something is measured in units of “mead halls

Iain Bertram
I am being driven to distraction by the use of ye olden days language scattered through the book whip I assume is for world building.
Why use seax instead is knife. 🔪 not everyone is reading digital books.
This smacks of an author (academic) showing off rather than making it readable.
I am not making fun of place names but using old words for common place items rather than the obvious modern word."

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S&L Podcast - #482 - Let's Talk About Seax, Baby

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We've opened nominations for Mad Marchness!, our March tournament of book picks. Plus, the failure of the Hugos and the rise of Romantasy. And we begin our first impressions of Shadow of the Gods by John Gwynne.

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WHAT ARE WE NOMMING?

Tom: Spanikopita Quesadilla

Veronica: Protein shakes

QUICK BURNS

March Madness nominations are open! Our annual tournament-style voting to determine the April pick is open for you to suggest books.

Tamahome: A link for Peter F. Hamilton's next book in September.

racer951y: Denis Villeneuve Will Stop Making ‘Dune’ Movies After ‘Dune 3,’ Despite More Books in the Series: ‘Dune Messiah Should Be the Last for Me’

Jan: The Guardian has an article about the rise of the Romantasy genre

Chris K: Locus has posted their 2023 Recommended Reading List

Oaken: Worldcon IP organization reacts to recent criticism of the 2023 Hugo awards and actions of the Chengdu award administrators.

Oaken: Scalzi notes that Glasgow Worldcon has, in light of the Chengdu incident, committed to transparency in the 2024 Hugo Awards.

Seth: Fourth Wing helped curb Big Five publisher domination of the 2023 bestseller lists (as reported by Publisher's Weekly).

BARE YOUR SWORD

Ruth: Unusual for both the hosts to admit that they didn’t really like the book. It’s definitely an unusual choice for S&L. It’s in that zone of not quite science fiction where it has unrealistic aspects but, as Tom says, the world isn’t fully built.

Stephen: Star Trek Season 2 Episode 14 "Wolf in The Fold" written by Robert Bloch had a murderous immortal entity. The crime was first placed on Scotty, who was last seen with the victim and couldn't remember what happened because Scotty got drunk on shore leave. So, I am giving the The Shining Girls a full hearted "it is a SF book." I remember Dan as being a former Crime Beat reporter who moved over to the Sports Beat

Paul: Hardcover should definitely hire Veronica.

I'm going to join, download the app, and give it 4 stars. My review: The only thing that would make the app better is if Veronica Belmont worked there. Then the app would be unstoppably awesome!"

"Dear Veronica,

Losing your job is never fun but believe it or not when it happened to me I found it not as bad as people say.

I was unemployed between July 2022 and February 2023.

It was a time to catch up on sleep, see/visit with people I haven't for a long time for whatever reason.

Volunteering helped a lot; it got me out of the house and was a fun way to network. I helped out at the local zoo, non-profit movie theater and Friends of the Library.

Friends of the library are non-profits that get donations of used books and sell them to the community for low costs. It's great for discovering books and authors that you never knew about or been meaning to try. It's how I found some old Fantasy novels from 1980s and 90s by Dennis L. McKiernan.

Best,

David"

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

Shadow of the Gods by John Gwynne

Amazon Link

What are we feasting?

What's going on in your thought-cage?

Blood and Guts

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S&L Podcast - #481 - Big Trouble in Little Worldcon

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Surprise, there's a problem with hosting the Hugos in China. Plus: Keanu Reeves is co-writing with China Mieville, we kick off our February read, The Shadow of the Gods. And our spoilery thoughts on The Shining Girls by Lauren Beukes.

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WHAT ARE WE NOMMING?

Tom: Pork chop, beans and rice

Veronica: Protein shakes

QUICK BURNS

Seth: Full trailer for 3 Body Problem captures epic scope of Liu Cixin’s novel

Jan: Tor Publishing is rebranding it's online news and editorial presence. Online Magazine Tor.com will become Reactor (Reactormag.com).

Mark: 2024 Philip K. Dick Award Nominees Announced

Seth: Next move for Keanu Reeves? Writing a sci-fi novel with China Mieville apparently

Jan: LocusMan reports that Journalism professor Shen Yang won the Chinese Jiangsu Youth Popular Science Science Fiction Competition with his novel "Land of Memories", which was reportedly generated by AI and then edited by Shen Yang.

Jan: Author Rie Kudan has won Japan's Akutagawa Prize with a Science Fiction Novel that was partly generated by AI. She explained that she estimates about 5 percent of the book quotes sentences generated by ChatGPT.

Mark: 2023 Hugo Award nominating and final ballot stats published.

Sword & Laser is on the list of fancast nominees (see page 34) but didn't get enough nominations to crack the top six.

Jan added "Interestingly, Babel by RF Kuang was ruled ineligible and that seems very strange considering how praised that book has been."

And Joanna noted There is a slightly enlightening discussion at File770

And Paul added "Not only was Babel excluded from eligibility from the Hugos, but so was Xiran Jay Zhao, author of the Iron Widow, fan writer Paul Weimer, and episodes of The Sandman TV series according to:

Xiran's twitter feed also shares some of the discourse concerned members of the SFF community have shared with Dave McCarty, the administrator for the last Hugo's":

There's also discussion of this in the Discord as well"

BARE YOUR SWORD

"Hi Tom and Veronica!

I recently listened to episode #480 after noticing a bunch of people clicking over to Hardcover in our analytics. I just wanted to reach out and say thank you for the mention and for trying out Hardcover!

We're still a relatively small book tracking site, having just launched in October 2023 after 2 years building and iterating. We just recently hit 5,000 members and feel like we're just getting started. We're an open book on our numbers and stats, so if you have any questions about anything, let me know.

If you have any feedback on Hardcover or wishlist items for a book website in general, I'd love to hear your thoughts or jump on a chat.

This is Hardcover's first mention on a podcast, and for that I'm super grateful and excited. 🙌

Thanks again,

Adam"

Stephen: "I really really really wanted Murderbot to employ the animation that is used in some of Netflix's Love Death and Robots episodes. Watch S3 " In Vaulted Halls Entombed " and imagine Murderbot being presented in that way. Also since Muderbot keep the faceplate down around humans, is this not going to be like Mandalorian situation."

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

KICK OFF

Shadow of the Gods by John Gwynne

Amazon Link

WRAP UP (SPOILERS)

January Book Pick

The Shining Girls by Lauren Beukes

- Amazon link

What was the Shining mechanic?

What are we nomming?

It could be, it might be, it is! A home run! Holy Cow Lauren Beukes!!

"Tassie Dave

After finishing the book last night, I decided to try the AppleTV adaptation.

To say it is based on the book is an understatement. I only watched the first episode, but it is a very loose adaptation, so far.

Great cast, but very different from what I pictured from the book.

Elisabeth Moss is about 15 years older than the Kirby in the book.

Dan is only slightly older than Kirby. It won't be creepy when he falls for her. 😉

There seems to be weird reality shifts occurring in Kirby's life (Not in the book)

Kirby Mazrachi is not her real name in the show, it is a chosen name. She already works for the newspaper. Dan's not a sports reporter.

I'm not sure I will continue, but it is a lot different."

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S&L Podcast - #480 - What You Can Do With Mickey Mouse

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Alternatives to Goodreads, and one of them is Amazon. Which owns Goodreads. What you can and can't do with Mickey Mouse. The "Who should play Murderbot" discussion continues. Typical human and augmented human stuff! Plus why Veronica should read this month's book pick.

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WHAT ARE WE NOMMING?

Tom: Shrimp Tacos
Veronica: Mac and Cheese Burger

QUICK BURNS

Dwango —
Not sure what this means for Goodreads, but Amazon, it's owner, appears to be making a competitor to Goodreads based on its Amazon reviews.

Mark was inspired to mention Hardcover "Like Goodreads, you can keep track of, and review what you read. I imported my books from Goodreads without any issues.”

The Hardcover developers compare themselves to Goodreads.

Tamahome: Disney's Steamboat Willie and Plane Crazy enter the public domain making one version of Mickey Mouse copyright free

Jan: In totally shocking news, fan fiction author Demetrious Polychron lost against the Tolkien estate and Amazon after he failed in his copyright lawsuit against the "Rings of Power" and now has to destroy all copes of his own "The Fellowships of the King" and pay USD 134,000 in lawyer's fees...

Jan: John (Taloni)
Not to worry! LOTR becomes public domain in 2044. So in 20 years he can recoup his costs.


BARE YOUR SWORD

Feedback from the audienceIain: I am pretty sure the discussion on Murderbot casting was not complaining about having a good looking actor. Rather the choice of which good looking actor. Could have cast Elliot Page and still have unreasonably attractive with a very different effective

John (Taloni) The discussion of Clay as the center of the band despite being an unspectacular if solid fighter - the "rhythm guitarist" of the group - reminded me of Gail Carriger's latest, the Tinkered Starsong trilogy. It's about band formation and growth among a group of aliens with a few humans. The group gravitates around one member as its "Sun," without which they can't function. He's otherwise a Low Cantor, essentially the rhythm guitarist of such a band.

Tassie Dave: Nicholas Eames has already answered the question of which part of a band they represent.
The main five who make up Saga are loosely based on the players in a 'classic' rock band. Gabe is the charismatic lead singer, Ganelon the highly-skilled 'axe-man' (lead guitar), Matrick as the drummer (he wields a pair of knives, after all) and Moog as the zany keyboard player. Which leaves, of course, Clay Cooper, as the quiet, often-overlooked bass player without whom the whole band would fall apart

Regarding your last episode, my friend Melissa found Veronica saying "Alexander Skarsgard" near the end (around 1:13:00) of episode 9 of Vaginal Fantasy.
According to her, that's the earliest mention of him on VF by Veronica. It's dated September 2012.
Yeah, my two friends and I have way too much time on our hands. (LOL)
-Drake Tungston

2023 5-star reads

3 Random (Calvey)
Former president Obama always releases his books of the year. Totally bummed there is no Fourth Wing. It may be the only list w/o it!

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

January Book Pick
The Shining Girls by Lauren Beukes
- Amazon link
January Book Pick

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S&L Podcast - #479 - Where Have All The Beef Suits Gone?

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Are there too many Nat 20s in Kings of the Wyld, our stance on Skarsgard as Murderbot, and we introduce the January pick (which has a lot of triggers).

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WHAT ARE WE NOMMING?

Tom: Peppermint bark, peppermint almonds, peppermint popcorn, gingerbread people

Veronica: bublé water

QUICK BURNS

Ruth and Tom: Murderbot is coming to Apple TV:

Mark noted that Martha Wells interviews Murderbot in the newest F(r)icton magazine! Reading requires purchase of a subscription or the individual issue."

Seth: Tor has released their best of the year list.

Seth: David Drake died this week.

Seth: The folks behind The Witcher and Wheel of Time adaptations have picked the Otherland series by author Tad Williams for the miniseries treatment"

Roberator: The Good Omens series was renewed for a third and final season:

BARE YOUR SWORD

Oaken: Regarding the Ray Bradbury/Kurt Vonnegut discussion

Ruth: Thanks for the shoutout to my article about Shadow and Bone!

You prompted me to have a couple of mini mince pies with my morning cup of tea. Mince pies are a seasonal staple over here, you can hardly avoid them from mid-November on. For extra indulgence, try one with a dollop of cream.

I should mention that, while mince pies don’t contain meat, they’re not always vegetarian- the filling sometimes contains beef suet.

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

January Book Pick

The Shining Girls by Lauren Beukes

- Amazon link

WRAP UP

Kings of the Wyld by Nicholas Eames

- Amazon Link

Book briefing

Spotify playlist

Perezge73

As a D&D player I loved Moog’s obsession with the Owlbear. I’ve never got to include one of those in any of my adventures. Even while watching the D&D movie, I thought about Moog when the Owlbear came out and I said to myself “That one’s for you buddy,”"

Aaron Bell

There was a mention on GR of 2 other books about ragtag bands of misfits with very similar cover designs to KotW, which sent me looking for fan art of the characters."

Here is a moody one of Larkspur that feels like it could be just out of frame on the cover.

And these are kind of fun. Personally I think Moog is the best here.

Apparently, I should have started here, seems like this is the master collection

Decado

Everything in this book seems so random. The author has a lot of cool ideas that he's throwing at the wall but it doesn't ever really form into a cohesive thing. This goes for the plot too, it's just random thing followed by random thing.

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