S&L Podcast - #484 - It's Giving "Mad"

We check in on who's winning the tournament. A vikings kids book! Where it's stabbing time! We talk a little bit about Iron Widow, and wrap up Shadow of the Gods.

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WHAT ARE WE NOMMING?

Tom: Tortellini with Pork Ragu
Veronica: Doritos


QUICK BURNS

March Madness Check in

Tamahome: Neuromancer coming to Apple TV

Oaken: BSFA announces shortlist of nominees for their 2024 awards

Mark: Announcing the finalists for the first annual Libby Book Awards, aka The Libbys

Seth: Felicia Day wins! Third Eye is the best audio-drama of the year according to the Audie Awards. Obviously this is really a win for the hype from her Sword and Laser appearance.

John (Taloni) For fans of the Spiderwick Chronicles: Disney+ has sold the completed first season to Roku, so it won't be permanently shelved like Batgirl or Coyote v Acme. H/T: Loscon

Jan: Rick Riordin has confirmed that Netflix has let their option for his Kane Chronicles series of novels lapse

Jan: Adrian Tchaikowsky will also no longer cite his 2023 Hugo win for Children of Time as best series due to a huge number of Chinese entries being disallowed and removed so that he considers the shortlist vor voting entirely unreliable and therefore he cannot consider himself to be a Hugo winner.

Mark: David Dastmalchian Joins Alexander Skarsgård In Apple Sci-Fi Series ‘Murderbot’ Will play Gurathin

Mantissa: There is an interesting interview with Martha Wells at Locus Magazine.

Mark: R.F. Kuang’s Babel Optioned for On-Screen Adaptation

BARE YOUR SWORD

John (Taloni)

And if we're doing Alien kid's books, why not Viking animated cartoons? I'm thinking like Dora the Viking. But instead of calling out The Map, it's The Seax! (going with the secondary pronunciation ""sax"" instead of what we all thought the first time, say-ax or see-ax.)

When adventure's on the go,
And it's stabbing time you know,
What'll it be? The seax! Say it again. The seax!
When there's places you should be
And it's killing time, you'll see
What'll it be? The seax! Say it again. The seax!
I'm the seax, I'm the seax
(He's the seax, he's the seax)
I'm the SEAX!

terpkristin: This episode got me through most of my workout today. Thanks for that!! :) And then I wanted hot chocolate and Girl Scout cookies but instead I had Szechuan crispy beef.

On the Hugo stuff, I was one of the ones expecting controversy with it being in China, but what I found most egregious in the leaked emails was the Western committee members deciding that books should be withheld--without reading the book. For someone to say "this shouldn't be in" without reading a book is RIDICULOUS.

The February BOTM isn't working for me. I've put it on the backburner. I know that my usual doorways are plot and characters and I just don't even want to read it. Maybe one day I'll get back to it

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

MARCH PICK
Iron Widow by Xiran Jay Zhao
Amazon Link

Final Thoughts (Spoilery)
Shadow of the Gods by John Gwynne
Amazon Link

LaszloJamf: Thoughts uncaged
First the good:
The Norse setting was cool with lashings of authentic detail.
The fights were gripping and Orka was an outstanding seax wielder.
The vaesen were creepy and I’m glad they reappeared at the end.
The bad:
Multiple view points slow this book down. I felt the two war bands were really similar and the Elvars blood grim did not really add anything.
The descriptions got kind of samey and we often just had lists of what weapons people were carrying.
3/5 but I’m gonna read the next book as vaesen are supposed to have greater part"

Decado:
Regardless of my gripes, I still enjoyed the book overall. I didn't think it felt slow like a lot of people did. I think Varg's chapters were my favorite, followed by Elvar, though I'm very interested to see where Orka's story goes now. All in all I would give it a 4/5 and I will definitely be continuing the trilogy."

Gristle McNerd
Oh come on, ending on a cliffhanger? I just finished
I do want to know what happens, but I'm not sure I want it enough to expose myself to more awkward prose about viking stuff"

The Hunger of the Gods


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S&L Podcast - #483 - C is for Chestburster

A few more thoughts on the Hugos, who would win in a fight between Maas and Yarros, and we preview our March Madness brackets!

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WHAT ARE WE NOMMING?

Tom: Mexican Caesar Salad
Veronica: Hot chocolate

QUICK BURNS

March Madness Brackets!

Let's run through the matchups. We can even give which ones are predicted to win based on reader votes on challonge

Seth: Susan Cooper, author of spooky fantasy kids books is the SFWA's newest Grand Master.

Seth and JasonReads: Ryan Reynold's production company is working on an adaptation of Scalzi's latest.

Seth: Apparently, The Martian is already 10 years old— Andy Weir wrote a bit more about Mark Watney's journey around the dust storm and released them as "The Lost Sols."

terpkristin: There’s some great journalism out about the 2023 Hugo Awards and the censorship involved. It’s pretty damning. Scalzi has thoughts on it too."

Decado and Jan: There is a press release on business wire titled "iwot and D1srupt1ve Join Forces as True Source to Unleash AI Magic on “The Wheel of Time”®" and I need Tom to decipher the press release! Help!

Tom's interpretation: "A company that uses number ones instead of the letter I is creating a chat bot trained on the Wheel of Time series. Coming to the Web, Android and iOS. It will have a freemium model. "

jasonb: ‘Alien’ Will Be Adapted for Children’s Book

BARE YOUR SWORD

Tamahome: If Rebecca Yarros and Sarah J. Maas had a fight, who would win?

Jan: I had to live for two weeks on protein shakes without anything else before a stomach operation to reduce the size of my liver so there was more room for the surgeon and while protein shakes are not as bad anymore it soured those shakes for me 😉

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

MARCH PICK

Iron Widow by Xiran Jay Zhao
Amazon Link

CHECK IN

Shadow of the Gods by John Gwynne
Amazon Link

LaszloJamf
Drink every time …
Stew is consumed
There is a spray of arterial blood
Something is measured in units of “mead halls

Iain Bertram
I am being driven to distraction by the use of ye olden days language scattered through the book whip I assume is for world building.
Why use seax instead is knife. 🔪 not everyone is reading digital books.
This smacks of an author (academic) showing off rather than making it readable.
I am not making fun of place names but using old words for common place items rather than the obvious modern word."

ADDENDUMS

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S&L Podcast - #482 - Let's Talk About Seax, Baby

We've opened nominations for Mad Marchness!, our March tournament of book picks. Plus, the failure of the Hugos and the rise of Romantasy. And we begin our first impressions of Shadow of the Gods by John Gwynne.

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WHAT ARE WE NOMMING?

Tom: Spanikopita Quesadilla

Veronica: Protein shakes

QUICK BURNS

March Madness nominations are open! Our annual tournament-style voting to determine the April pick is open for you to suggest books.

Tamahome: A link for Peter F. Hamilton's next book in September.

racer951y: Denis Villeneuve Will Stop Making ‘Dune’ Movies After ‘Dune 3,’ Despite More Books in the Series: ‘Dune Messiah Should Be the Last for Me’

Jan: The Guardian has an article about the rise of the Romantasy genre

Chris K: Locus has posted their 2023 Recommended Reading List

Oaken: Worldcon IP organization reacts to recent criticism of the 2023 Hugo awards and actions of the Chengdu award administrators.

Oaken: Scalzi notes that Glasgow Worldcon has, in light of the Chengdu incident, committed to transparency in the 2024 Hugo Awards.

Seth: Fourth Wing helped curb Big Five publisher domination of the 2023 bestseller lists (as reported by Publisher's Weekly).

BARE YOUR SWORD

Ruth: Unusual for both the hosts to admit that they didn’t really like the book. It’s definitely an unusual choice for S&L. It’s in that zone of not quite science fiction where it has unrealistic aspects but, as Tom says, the world isn’t fully built.

Stephen: Star Trek Season 2 Episode 14 "Wolf in The Fold" written by Robert Bloch had a murderous immortal entity. The crime was first placed on Scotty, who was last seen with the victim and couldn't remember what happened because Scotty got drunk on shore leave. So, I am giving the The Shining Girls a full hearted "it is a SF book." I remember Dan as being a former Crime Beat reporter who moved over to the Sports Beat

Paul: Hardcover should definitely hire Veronica.

I'm going to join, download the app, and give it 4 stars. My review: The only thing that would make the app better is if Veronica Belmont worked there. Then the app would be unstoppably awesome!"

"Dear Veronica,

Losing your job is never fun but believe it or not when it happened to me I found it not as bad as people say.

I was unemployed between July 2022 and February 2023.

It was a time to catch up on sleep, see/visit with people I haven't for a long time for whatever reason.

Volunteering helped a lot; it got me out of the house and was a fun way to network. I helped out at the local zoo, non-profit movie theater and Friends of the Library.

Friends of the library are non-profits that get donations of used books and sell them to the community for low costs. It's great for discovering books and authors that you never knew about or been meaning to try. It's how I found some old Fantasy novels from 1980s and 90s by Dennis L. McKiernan.

Best,

David"

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

Shadow of the Gods by John Gwynne

Amazon Link

What are we feasting?

What's going on in your thought-cage?

Blood and Guts

ADDENDUMS

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S&L Podcast - #481 - Big Trouble in Little Worldcon

Surprise, there's a problem with hosting the Hugos in China. Plus: Keanu Reeves is co-writing with China Mieville, we kick off our February read, The Shadow of the Gods. And our spoilery thoughts on The Shining Girls by Lauren Beukes.

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WHAT ARE WE NOMMING?

Tom: Pork chop, beans and rice

Veronica: Protein shakes

QUICK BURNS

Seth: Full trailer for 3 Body Problem captures epic scope of Liu Cixin’s novel

Jan: Tor Publishing is rebranding it's online news and editorial presence. Online Magazine Tor.com will become Reactor (Reactormag.com).

Mark: 2024 Philip K. Dick Award Nominees Announced

Seth: Next move for Keanu Reeves? Writing a sci-fi novel with China Mieville apparently

Jan: LocusMan reports that Journalism professor Shen Yang won the Chinese Jiangsu Youth Popular Science Science Fiction Competition with his novel "Land of Memories", which was reportedly generated by AI and then edited by Shen Yang.

Jan: Author Rie Kudan has won Japan's Akutagawa Prize with a Science Fiction Novel that was partly generated by AI. She explained that she estimates about 5 percent of the book quotes sentences generated by ChatGPT.

Mark: 2023 Hugo Award nominating and final ballot stats published.

Sword & Laser is on the list of fancast nominees (see page 34) but didn't get enough nominations to crack the top six.

Jan added "Interestingly, Babel by RF Kuang was ruled ineligible and that seems very strange considering how praised that book has been."

And Joanna noted There is a slightly enlightening discussion at File770

And Paul added "Not only was Babel excluded from eligibility from the Hugos, but so was Xiran Jay Zhao, author of the Iron Widow, fan writer Paul Weimer, and episodes of The Sandman TV series according to:

Xiran's twitter feed also shares some of the discourse concerned members of the SFF community have shared with Dave McCarty, the administrator for the last Hugo's":

There's also discussion of this in the Discord as well"

BARE YOUR SWORD

"Hi Tom and Veronica!

I recently listened to episode #480 after noticing a bunch of people clicking over to Hardcover in our analytics. I just wanted to reach out and say thank you for the mention and for trying out Hardcover!

We're still a relatively small book tracking site, having just launched in October 2023 after 2 years building and iterating. We just recently hit 5,000 members and feel like we're just getting started. We're an open book on our numbers and stats, so if you have any questions about anything, let me know.

If you have any feedback on Hardcover or wishlist items for a book website in general, I'd love to hear your thoughts or jump on a chat.

This is Hardcover's first mention on a podcast, and for that I'm super grateful and excited. 🙌

Thanks again,

Adam"

Stephen: "I really really really wanted Murderbot to employ the animation that is used in some of Netflix's Love Death and Robots episodes. Watch S3 " In Vaulted Halls Entombed " and imagine Murderbot being presented in that way. Also since Muderbot keep the faceplate down around humans, is this not going to be like Mandalorian situation."

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

KICK OFF

Shadow of the Gods by John Gwynne

Amazon Link

WRAP UP (SPOILERS)

January Book Pick

The Shining Girls by Lauren Beukes

- Amazon link

What was the Shining mechanic?

What are we nomming?

It could be, it might be, it is! A home run! Holy Cow Lauren Beukes!!

"Tassie Dave

After finishing the book last night, I decided to try the AppleTV adaptation.

To say it is based on the book is an understatement. I only watched the first episode, but it is a very loose adaptation, so far.

Great cast, but very different from what I pictured from the book.

Elisabeth Moss is about 15 years older than the Kirby in the book.

Dan is only slightly older than Kirby. It won't be creepy when he falls for her. 😉

There seems to be weird reality shifts occurring in Kirby's life (Not in the book)

Kirby Mazrachi is not her real name in the show, it is a chosen name. She already works for the newspaper. Dan's not a sports reporter.

I'm not sure I will continue, but it is a lot different."

ADDENDUMS

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You can also support the show by buying books through our links! Find links to the books we talk about and some of our favorites at swordandlaser.com/picks