S&L Podcast - #481 - Big Trouble in Little Worldcon

Surprise, there's a problem with hosting the Hugos in China. Plus: Keanu Reeves is co-writing with China Mieville, we kick off our February read, The Shadow of the Gods. And our spoilery thoughts on The Shining Girls by Lauren Beukes.

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WHAT ARE WE NOMMING?

Tom: Pork chop, beans and rice

Veronica: Protein shakes

QUICK BURNS

Seth: Full trailer for 3 Body Problem captures epic scope of Liu Cixin’s novel

Jan: Tor Publishing is rebranding it's online news and editorial presence. Online Magazine Tor.com will become Reactor (Reactormag.com).

Mark: 2024 Philip K. Dick Award Nominees Announced

Seth: Next move for Keanu Reeves? Writing a sci-fi novel with China Mieville apparently

Jan: LocusMan reports that Journalism professor Shen Yang won the Chinese Jiangsu Youth Popular Science Science Fiction Competition with his novel "Land of Memories", which was reportedly generated by AI and then edited by Shen Yang.

Jan: Author Rie Kudan has won Japan's Akutagawa Prize with a Science Fiction Novel that was partly generated by AI. She explained that she estimates about 5 percent of the book quotes sentences generated by ChatGPT.

Mark: 2023 Hugo Award nominating and final ballot stats published.

Sword & Laser is on the list of fancast nominees (see page 34) but didn't get enough nominations to crack the top six.

Jan added "Interestingly, Babel by RF Kuang was ruled ineligible and that seems very strange considering how praised that book has been."

And Joanna noted There is a slightly enlightening discussion at File770

And Paul added "Not only was Babel excluded from eligibility from the Hugos, but so was Xiran Jay Zhao, author of the Iron Widow, fan writer Paul Weimer, and episodes of The Sandman TV series according to:

Xiran's twitter feed also shares some of the discourse concerned members of the SFF community have shared with Dave McCarty, the administrator for the last Hugo's":

There's also discussion of this in the Discord as well"

BARE YOUR SWORD

"Hi Tom and Veronica!

I recently listened to episode #480 after noticing a bunch of people clicking over to Hardcover in our analytics. I just wanted to reach out and say thank you for the mention and for trying out Hardcover!

We're still a relatively small book tracking site, having just launched in October 2023 after 2 years building and iterating. We just recently hit 5,000 members and feel like we're just getting started. We're an open book on our numbers and stats, so if you have any questions about anything, let me know.

If you have any feedback on Hardcover or wishlist items for a book website in general, I'd love to hear your thoughts or jump on a chat.

This is Hardcover's first mention on a podcast, and for that I'm super grateful and excited. 🙌

Thanks again,

Adam"

Stephen: "I really really really wanted Murderbot to employ the animation that is used in some of Netflix's Love Death and Robots episodes. Watch S3 " In Vaulted Halls Entombed " and imagine Murderbot being presented in that way. Also since Muderbot keep the faceplate down around humans, is this not going to be like Mandalorian situation."

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

KICK OFF

Shadow of the Gods by John Gwynne

Amazon Link

WRAP UP (SPOILERS)

January Book Pick

The Shining Girls by Lauren Beukes

- Amazon link

What was the Shining mechanic?

What are we nomming?

It could be, it might be, it is! A home run! Holy Cow Lauren Beukes!!

"Tassie Dave

After finishing the book last night, I decided to try the AppleTV adaptation.

To say it is based on the book is an understatement. I only watched the first episode, but it is a very loose adaptation, so far.

Great cast, but very different from what I pictured from the book.

Elisabeth Moss is about 15 years older than the Kirby in the book.

Dan is only slightly older than Kirby. It won't be creepy when he falls for her. 😉

There seems to be weird reality shifts occurring in Kirby's life (Not in the book)

Kirby Mazrachi is not her real name in the show, it is a chosen name. She already works for the newspaper. Dan's not a sports reporter.

I'm not sure I will continue, but it is a lot different."

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S&L Podcast - #480 - What You Can Do With Mickey Mouse

Alternatives to Goodreads, and one of them is Amazon. Which owns Goodreads. What you can and can't do with Mickey Mouse. The "Who should play Murderbot" discussion continues. Typical human and augmented human stuff! Plus why Veronica should read this month's book pick.

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WHAT ARE WE NOMMING?

Tom: Shrimp Tacos
Veronica: Mac and Cheese Burger

QUICK BURNS

Dwango —
Not sure what this means for Goodreads, but Amazon, it's owner, appears to be making a competitor to Goodreads based on its Amazon reviews.

Mark was inspired to mention Hardcover "Like Goodreads, you can keep track of, and review what you read. I imported my books from Goodreads without any issues.”

The Hardcover developers compare themselves to Goodreads.

Tamahome: Disney's Steamboat Willie and Plane Crazy enter the public domain making one version of Mickey Mouse copyright free

Jan: In totally shocking news, fan fiction author Demetrious Polychron lost against the Tolkien estate and Amazon after he failed in his copyright lawsuit against the "Rings of Power" and now has to destroy all copes of his own "The Fellowships of the King" and pay USD 134,000 in lawyer's fees...

Jan: John (Taloni)
Not to worry! LOTR becomes public domain in 2044. So in 20 years he can recoup his costs.


BARE YOUR SWORD

Feedback from the audienceIain: I am pretty sure the discussion on Murderbot casting was not complaining about having a good looking actor. Rather the choice of which good looking actor. Could have cast Elliot Page and still have unreasonably attractive with a very different effective

John (Taloni) The discussion of Clay as the center of the band despite being an unspectacular if solid fighter - the "rhythm guitarist" of the group - reminded me of Gail Carriger's latest, the Tinkered Starsong trilogy. It's about band formation and growth among a group of aliens with a few humans. The group gravitates around one member as its "Sun," without which they can't function. He's otherwise a Low Cantor, essentially the rhythm guitarist of such a band.

Tassie Dave: Nicholas Eames has already answered the question of which part of a band they represent.
The main five who make up Saga are loosely based on the players in a 'classic' rock band. Gabe is the charismatic lead singer, Ganelon the highly-skilled 'axe-man' (lead guitar), Matrick as the drummer (he wields a pair of knives, after all) and Moog as the zany keyboard player. Which leaves, of course, Clay Cooper, as the quiet, often-overlooked bass player without whom the whole band would fall apart

Regarding your last episode, my friend Melissa found Veronica saying "Alexander Skarsgard" near the end (around 1:13:00) of episode 9 of Vaginal Fantasy.
According to her, that's the earliest mention of him on VF by Veronica. It's dated September 2012.
Yeah, my two friends and I have way too much time on our hands. (LOL)
-Drake Tungston

2023 5-star reads

3 Random (Calvey)
Former president Obama always releases his books of the year. Totally bummed there is no Fourth Wing. It may be the only list w/o it!

BOOK OF THE MONTH DISCUSSION

January Book Pick
The Shining Girls by Lauren Beukes
- Amazon link
January Book Pick

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